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Old 10-04-2008, 11:17 PM
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You can't fault someone for placing a horse where they belong.

This isn't an impressive accomplishment though. There are fillies and mares who run for high priced claiming tags on the major circuits who would be deserving favorites over her.

By keeping PP racing against New Mexico breds - it's not like they're depriving the sport of much.
Actually I can fault someone for not taking a chance at some point to see how good she actually is. After beating up on her competition for numerous races one would think, hey, lets see if she can step up. Not Joel...I believe he was a little too concerned about this "record"
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Old 10-05-2008, 12:04 AM
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Peppers Pride makes me nostalgic for Hallowed Dreams.

It's amusing to see a horse go 17-for-17 when they parlay a perfect trip into a 1.75 length margin of victory at level weight over a filly who has run Beyers of 73, 73, and 60 in her 3 most recent starts...and was beaten at Ruidoso Downs last time out.

Hallowed Dreams won her first 16 races to start her career - and 23 of her first 24 - she ran 10 triple digit Beyers - including a top of 111.

I remember some mocking her because they kept her in the state of La - the horses who were finishing last in those races could have probably trounced Pepper's Pride.


It's a game.

With strategy, and goals.

That's what the connections wanted today, and that's OK.

You naysayers who think it was just a walk must be p*ssed off you didn't take the easy 20% profit.....??
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:46 AM
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Your a idiot bud! He has done wonderfully by this mare by bankrolling close to 750k. Yeah I sure as **** would be embarassed for her. You are a classless joke who's opinion sucks. Joel Marr has campaigned her beuatifully and ran her in winnable spots. Can't and shouldn't ask for more then that.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:56 AM
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Actually I can fault someone for not taking a chance at some point to see how good she actually is. After beating up on her competition for numerous races one would think, hey, lets see if she can step up. Not Joel...I believe he was a little too concerned about this "record"
Look, if Nick Zito had kept Commentator running against straight New York breds for his first 17 races - or John Service had kept Smarty Jones running against Pennsylvania breds for his first 17 races - I would agree that it would be a crime against horse racing because those horses had posted monster figures in dynamite individual performances at the state bred level.

If Peppers Pride had run against Indyanne and Wild Gams yesterday - I think the only serious question would have been whether she would be beaten 12 lengths or 25 lengths.
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:07 AM
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If Hang Glide hadn't broken a step slow she would have won by at least a dozen lengths.
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Old 10-05-2008, 12:07 PM
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You just can't make some people happy. I'm fairly certain that if Joel Marr thought this mare had the talent to win better races, he would try her in one. I would say he's probably happy that she keeps winning and bringing home a paycheck. I'd rather that than the alternative.
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Old 10-05-2008, 12:15 PM
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Who the hell is Joel Marr anyway?
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Old 10-05-2008, 12:23 PM
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Can we move this discussion to the Virginia Derby thread?
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Old 10-05-2008, 12:25 PM
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Can we move this discussion to the Virginia Derby thread?
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Old 10-05-2008, 06:21 PM
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I've said at least twice in this thread that they've done a good job earning A LOT of money with a very mediocre horse. However, you and the rest of the pretty horsey people have completely missed the boat on what the other side of the arguement is. It's fine, but spare me your first sentence nonsense.


I wasn't talking to you, Jay. Thanks, though.
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:26 PM
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Yeah, Jay.
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Old 10-06-2008, 04:06 AM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwiEgXNcpPI

For those of you who might have liked to see....but missed.

I guess it's the Zia Park race feed, or something. But, her race is there in full. And a bit more.


And here's a tribute from a Peppers Pride fan. I'm usually not big on YouTube tributes, but since I haven't seen too much of Peppers Pride to date I found it nice to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHLG8i0_C4I
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:08 AM
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And here's a tribute from a Peppers Pride fan. I'm usually not big on YouTube tributes, but since I haven't seen too much of Peppers Pride to date I found it nice to watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kHLG8i0_C4I
A youtube tribute for Pepper's Pride?
People need help.
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Old 10-06-2008, 03:14 PM
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He has done wonderfully by this mare by bankrolling close to 750k. Yeah I sure as **** would be embarassed for her. Joel Marr has campaigned her beuatifully and ran her in winnable spots. Can't and shouldn't ask for more then that.
I wouldn't say I'm an idiot, nor did a say I was embarassed for her. All I am saying is she obviously has some talent, take a chance and face some better horses. So a 35K optional claimer is a "winnable spot" for a mare that has one 16 in a row??? Please. Once he got to a certain point he was more concerned about running her in races she couldn't lose instead of running against better competition and gauging how much talent she actually has.

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Old 10-06-2008, 04:42 PM
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I wouldn't say I'm an idiot, nor did a say I was embarassed for her. All I am saying is she obviously has some talent, take a chance and face some better horses. So a 35K optional claimer is a "winnable spot" for a mare that has one 16 in a row??? Please. Once he got to a certain point he was more concerned about running her in races she couldn't lose instead of running against better competition and gauging how much talent she actually has.
can't say i blame the guy for the approach he took, it certainly paid off for him. maybe now they'll shoot a bit higher. or maybe not. who cares really? it's now a relatively meaningless record, much like most records.
a new 10f grass record was set the other day. quick, who previously held the record. can anyone answer that without looking it up?? other than btw that is...that guy remembers everything!
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Old 10-06-2008, 04:58 PM
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Old 10-06-2008, 05:04 PM
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All I want to know is did the horse win or not?
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Old 10-06-2008, 05:07 PM
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All I want to know is did the horse win or not?
Yes, he broke Cigar's record....17 in a row
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Old 10-06-2008, 06:30 PM
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For anyone who cares... or possible fuel for anyone who doesn't.

On her plans...

http://www.drf.com/news/article/98858.html

Asmussen on Pepper...

http://startelegramsports.typepad.co...en-on-pep.html

Okay, gonna back away from the thread now very, very slowly...
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Old 10-06-2008, 07:28 PM
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For anyone who cares... or possible fuel for anyone who doesn't.

On her plans...

http://www.drf.com/news/article/98858.html

Asmussen on Pepper...

http://startelegramsports.typepad.co...en-on-pep.html

Okay, gonna back away from the thread now very, very slowly...
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