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Old 04-03-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default No Wood for Circular Quay

Any Given Saturday will go instead....Pletcher to train Quay to the Kentucky Derby...

http://www.drf.com/news/article/83739.html
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:31 PM
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Any Given Saturday will go instead....Pletcher to train Quay to the Kentucky Derby...

http://www.drf.com/news/article/83739.html
dosent make since to me, i guess nobiz gets to beat any given saturday now
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Old 04-04-2007, 08:46 AM
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dosent make since to me, i guess nobiz gets to beat any given saturday now
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I doubt it will be that easy for him.
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:46 AM
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dosent make since to me, i guess nobiz gets to beat any given saturday now
I wouldn't count on it. Street Sense and Any Given Saturday are the class of the 3yr old division.
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:56 AM
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I wouldn't count on it. Street Sense and Any Given Saturday are the class of the 3yr old division.

Except I'm not so sure Pletcher wants JV to push AGS that hard in the race.. especially coming off short rest(the reason they were pointing to the Blue grass).. getting at least 2nd place money is likely the main goal in this spot. if something goes wrong with Nobiz, they'll be happy to take down the race, but I'd be surprised if AGS is really ever pushed harder than enough to place 2nd. I think the last thing they want to do is knock heads in the stretch again.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:00 AM
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People really need to get it out of their heads that good races somehow aren't good for any horse's future efforts. This is the kind of baloney that is ruining the game at the top level.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:02 AM
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People really need to get it out of their heads that good races somehow aren't good for any horse's future efforts. This is the kind of baloney that is ruining the game at the top level.
and the soga continues, trainers putting horses in races, without a chance to win.

Great, another training lesson on race training.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:03 AM
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People really need to get it out of their heads that good races somehow aren't good for any horse's future efforts. This is the kind of baloney that is ruining the game at the top level.
I dont know about that Andy. Look how bad Secretariat ran after those too taxing efforts in the Derby and Preakness!
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:05 AM
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People really need to get it out of their heads that good races somehow aren't good for any horse's future efforts. This is the kind of baloney that is ruining the game at the top level.
I agree, and I think Any Given Saturday needs to win this race to be a factor in the Derby. A hard fought victory is just what this horse needs.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:12 AM
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People really need to get it out of their heads that good races somehow aren't good for any horse's future efforts. This is the kind of baloney that is ruining the game at the top level.
Jaysus Andy, ya finally said something I can defend! GOOD RACES MEAN A HORSE IS GOOD.
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Old 04-04-2007, 01:25 PM
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Per the toddpletcherracing.com website, Circular Quay had a workout on 4/1 at Palm Beach Downs: :49 2/5 for 4 furlongs.

Thus the horse has had another work since 3/26
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Old 04-04-2007, 05:59 PM
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Per the toddpletcherracing.com website, Circular Quay had a workout on 4/1 at Palm Beach Downs: :49 2/5 for 4 furlongs.

Thus the horse has had another work since 3/26
It was not on DRF at about 1pm yesterday when I put my article up for the ridicule of the masses.
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Old 04-15-2007, 09:00 PM
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Another work: So far, so good.

Horse name Circular Quay
Notes 2007 Derby Hopeful
Activity type Workout
Activity date 04-15-2007
Track Keeneland
Surface All Weather Track
Distance 6 Furlongs
Workout type Handily
Workout time 1:13.40
Track condition Fast
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:33 PM
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It's the right move with Any Given Saturday.....and a very possible precursor to an unpleasant announcement regarding Circular Quay.
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:35 PM
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In writing my weekly Derby article, I noticed that CQ hadn't trained since last Monday. I figured that it was due to "shipping issues" from FLA. Now I doubt that CQ should remain on top of my list.
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:37 PM
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we could all be wrong and maybe he will just train up to the derby, but i'd say within the week there will be a annoucment made, that he is off the derby trail.
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:36 PM
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What are the odds that Pletcher doesn't win the Derby with any of his hopefuls???
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:38 PM
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What are the odds that Pletcher doesn't win the Derby with any of his hopefuls???

i dont think he will win, that was before this annoucment and the ravel injury.... even with ravel and circular quay i did not think this was his year
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:41 PM
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So, Circular Quay is supposed to be ready for the Derby off an eight week layoff and essentially one real effort this year?

Excuse me for thinking something's rotten in Denmark.
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Old 04-03-2007, 09:45 PM
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So, Circular Quay is supposed to be ready for the Derby off an eight week layoff and essentially one real effort this year?

Excuse me for thinking something's rotten in Denmark.
Hard Spun's options have been left extremely wide open as well (skip Derby or train up to it)...but we can all rest easy tonight knowing that Sedgefield may get his earnings in on Friday and therefore be in the gate the first Saturday in May.
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