JAZIL....Most Overrated horse in the history of horse racing....

[slotdirt]

Keyed Entry? Heh.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

lol well i like my horse better than any other horse in the world and the best he could do was break his n3/l

I'll always pull for the horses bred by Two Bucks Farm, so that's probably why.

(Same reason I follow Cotton Blossom.)

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by POINTGIVEN1985

WHATEVER YOU SAY...............just off the top of my head i will name 15 horses i'd MUCH rather have then jazil, current horses that are in training



no biz
latent heat
corinthian
chatain
invasor
discreet cat
hard spun
round pond
boca grande
dreaming of anna
e z warrior
ravel
sun king
tiz wonderful... even with the injury
showing up
the tin man...even at the age of 115
english channel
premium tap
street sense
keyed entry
there thats more then 15

no lava man? lol

[disappearingdan_akaplaya]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I'll always pull for the horses bred by Two Bucks Farm, so that's probably why.

(Same reason I follow Cotton Blossom.)

well cajun and buffy i will say 1 thing about EM, i wish we hada gotten to see the horse try the lawn

[POINTGIVEN1985]

yes lava man
fairbanks
anything bye giants causeway
go between
wait a while
lady of venice
there are 100 more

[slotdirt]

Now you're just being silly.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

lol i am not , i have been planning on buying a horse now since i was 19, and if i could right now i would take anything i mentioned over jazil

[slotdirt]

Remind me not to invest any money with you.

[POINTGIVEN1985]

lol ok

[2MinsToPost]

man this thread is a happening place

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

man this thread is a happening place

I think it should be locked and we should all pretend we never saw it.

Move along people, nothing to see here.

[JJP]

Point Given-

I didn't feel like re-reading the entire thread but I'm guessing there's a few posters who ate crow. I was with you on Jazil being overrated; maybe not the biggest ever, but he's now burned odds on money in two NW2Xs, so I think it would be very difficult to say he hasn't been overrated by the general public.

[LARHAGE]

Originally Posted by disappearingdan_akaplaya

lol what buffy you couldnt come up with that all on your own? anyways nobody ever said ats was going to win the TC. nobody said ats was the greatest thing since sliced bread like empire faker was made out to be. EM only finished a head infront of him in the derby after that brutal trip he recieved so i guess em is a piece of crap as well to you lar. RIP ATS! since man among men beat empire faker, i guess id have to put my money on zippy chippy against him if they hada match race

You could also say Empire Maker beat AtswhatI'mploddingbout with a bad foot and a wide trip, which he did. The fact he got beat by Man Among Men in his 3rd start, as a green baby, looking at the grandstands is irrelevant, Man Among Men was a nice horse, and Ats surely never beat much better than him, anyway after that Sham Stakes they put the blinkers on Empire Maker and the result was his Florida Derby, Ats could NEVER run a race like that, he was a plodding, suck up piece of crap, the proverbial woulda, shoulda, coulda. Ats also finished 4th in the Derby, the distance challenged Peace Rules, who was also ten times the horse that Ats rat was, also beat him despite battling for a mile and a quarter. Empire Maker was a Classic winner, won 3 Grade 1's, was never off the board and he's a faker. What the hell did Atswhat EVER accomplish? Ten Most Wanted could have gone around the track again and he was NEVER getting by Empire Maker, watch the replay, he could only get as close as his neck and Empire Maker pulled away again when he saw him. I just don't get how you can diss a horse like Empire Maker with what he accomplished and call him a fake, while turning around and praising a hanging rat like AtswhatI'mtalkingabout!!!! Their not even in the same league in accomplishments or talent!

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by JJP

Point Given-

I didn't feel like re-reading the entire thread but I'm guessing there's a few posters who ate crow. I was with you on Jazil being overrated; maybe not the biggest ever, but he's now burned odds on money in two NW2Xs, so I think it would be very difficult to say he hasn't been overrated by the general public.

I don't think that there were too many people here (or any) talking about Jazil being a mortal lock or anything, so there isn't much crow to eat for anyone.

I think the point most were making is that you don't have to **** on another horse just because it's not the horse you like in a race. Most racing fans don't generally appreciate that.

[brockguy]

people complain about speed, speed, speed and then diss Jazil.. If only there was top class action over 12f like the good old days..he'd do extremely well. Invasor would still probably smoke everyone though at 12

[The Bid]

If he would have ran 12fl today he would have gotten beat by 20.

He was up and down while Corinthian was incredible

[Gander]

Hes 21 years old. He'll learn that there are better ways to talk up a horse like Corinthian and diss a horse we all knew was going to be badly overbet.

I give him kudos for being able to identify that Jazil was a bad win wager today. I wouldnt say he had zero chance but in my opinion at 4/5 he was one of the worst win wagers I have seen this year.

This guy took the obvious horse to beat him and put up a lot of money and got paid.

Maybe next time, he will do it in a more likeable way like Mermaid does.

PS- What was up with the King of Jazz being 7/2? Who is the King of Jazz?

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Here are the horses trained by Pletcher nominated to the 05 Triple Crown. He still has English Channel! A couple others are still around like Master Command and Siphon City but amazing how many flops there were.

Argento
Bandini
Coin Silver
Confederation
Desert Breeze
Dubleo
English Channel
Flower Alley
Gato Grande
Guillaume Tell
Harbor Master
Harlington
Killenaule
King Valiant
Kristali
Landslide
Look No Further
Maillol
Malheur
Master Command
Monarch Lane
More Than Somewhat
Morning Raider
Nophone
Proud Accolade
Remuneration
Siphon City
Storming
Sundrop
Tales Not Told
Unbridled Harmony
Vicarage
Wall Street
Yes Yes Yes

One of them worked.....the fabulous Harlington...

Harlington
Your Comment: Rahy-Serena's Song (BH conf. series)

Date: 02/08/2007
Track: WINDING OAKS FARM
Distance: Three Furlongs
Time: 38:40 Breezing
Track Condition: Fast
Surface: Dirt
Rank: 3/7

[Left Bank]

Brother Derek is the biggest overrated horse in my book!

[The Indomitable DrugS]

A couple of Brother Derek's '06 performances were very overrated....however, he's a little better horse than Jazil....whom he dead-heated with, for 4th, in the '06 Derby.