Appropriate punishment for animal cruelty - Page 8

randallscott35 · #**141** 02-03-2007, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

tony and i will hit 21 in march.

Congrats!

Danzig · #**142** 02-03-2007, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Congrats!

thanks!! he's a great guy, i'm very lucky.

Danzig · #**143** 02-03-2007, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

There are stupid people in every state. I don't think its fair to generalize....Surround yourself with the right ones and hope the other ones don't have kids.

my sis works for walmart, a district mgr. they offered her a position in the home office-batesville ark. of course i live in arkansas...she turned them down. when my other sis asked her why, she said move to arkansas? i can't do that to MY kids....

hehe
she's a charmer

somerfrost · #**144** 02-03-2007, 03:19 PM

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you better marry again, going by your average, you're guaranteed another 20 years on the planet.

LOL...if I meet the right person I'd surely try again... lets see, progression theory...16, 22...that means the next may last 28 years, yeah...I'd take that!
Randall...no, she was (is) a fundamentalist christian, she doesn't like hunting but not a PETA member.

somerfrost · #**145** 02-03-2007, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

my sis works for walmart, a district mgr. they offered her a position in the home office-batesville ark. of course i live in arkansas...she turned them down. when my other sis asked her why, she said move to arkansas? i can't do that to MY kids....

hehe
she's a charmer

I've lived in :
NY
WVa
NJ
PA
VA
and briefly in:
DC
ILL
Del
Ohio
Out of all those, I enjoyed WVa the most! I was in most of the Southern states during my time in the Civil Rights movement and met a lot of wonderful folks...sure a lot of angry ones too but that was expected. Attempting to discredit folks because of where they live is nothing more than ignorance...good and bad exist everywhere!

randallscott35 · #**146** 02-03-2007, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

I've lived in :
NY
WVa
NJ
PA
VA
and briefly in:
DC
ILL
Del
Ohio
Out of all those, I enjoyed WVa the most! I was in most of the Southern states during my time in the Civil Rights movement and met a lot of wonderful folks...sure a lot of angry ones too but that was expected. Attempting to discredit folks because of where they live is nothing more than ignorance...good and bad exist everywhere!

And second was Jersey no doubt. Where did you live in NJ?

somerfrost · #**147** 02-03-2007, 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

And second was Jersey no doubt. Where did you live in NJ?

No, I spent over a year in NJ while at Fort Dix....Browns Mills and Boyertown (sp?)...didn't really like it but then, I really didn't like the Army so hard to be fair!

Danzig · #**148** 02-03-2007, 03:29 PM

lived in md, missouri, florida, california and here. we like it here the best i guess.
but truly, home is where the heart is. i could move tomorrow, and would no doubt like where i ended up.

Downthestretch55 · #**149** 02-03-2007, 03:30 PM

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i don't shoot anything that i'm not going to eat. PERIOD. i've been called crazy for not shooting bobcats, as they eat turkey hatchlings. but aren't they supposed to?
besides, i don't eat bobcat.
i don't shoot birds. they have crow hunting-you should have seen the look i got when i asked if people eat them. apparently they don't--so why is there a season? i didn't get a good answer to that either.

but hopefully, at least someone, or two, will read all this mess and maybe realize we don't all go around in dented pickups with a crazed look, shooting deer by the hundreds and leaving them to rot....

and that was a funny bowling story. didn't know that sport could be so lethal.

Danzig,
I don't shoot crows either, though there seem to be plenty around.
Heck, I even caught a sea gull once while I was blue fishing.
Released unharmed, though it tried like crazy to take off my fingers...such an ingrate!
I do hunt birds...ruffed grouse (partridge in these parts), woodcock, and pheasants. Never over my limit, and all eaten.
Wild turkey is pretty good too, especially after a maple brine and hickory smoke in the smoker.
Basically, I don't waste any of the harvest.
It's not the blood, the kill, or the pulling of the trigger that makes it important to me. That's such a small part of it, and frankly, it gives me no joy.
The truth of it is that there's something about hunting and fishing that connects me with something far bigger than me. Not many folks will understand that. Nor do I want to try to convince them.
All I ask is for tolerance.
And yes, I've been involved in chickens, pigs, lambs, veal, and most of the other meats that come so neatly wrapped in the refrigerator case in the supermarket. To be honest, we always gave the critters the best food, care, and life possible. It's as real as my stringbeans and tomatoes.
All part of the "garden" called abundance. Gosh, I love it all.
Thanks for tolerating my rant.

randallscott35 · #**150** 02-03-2007, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

No, I spent over a year in NJ while at Fort Dix....Browns Mills and Boyertown (sp?)...didn't really like it but then, I really didn't like the Army so hard to be fair!

Well Fort Dix isn't NJ. Any military base doesn't give you a feel for the state. Plus southern Jersey is more like Maryland than NYC area. Come up from the sticks. Great place.

somerfrost · #**151** 02-03-2007, 03:30 PM

Oops, I missed Maryland...don't know how I did that...lived in Salisbury and Hagerstown.

Danzig · #**152** 02-03-2007, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Danzig,
I don't shoot crows either, though there seem to be plenty around.
Heck, I even caught a sea gull once while I was blue fishing.
Released unharmed, though it tried like crazy to take off my fingers...such an ingrate!
I do hunt birds...ruffed grouse (partridge in these parts), woodcock, and pheasants. Never over my limit, and all eaten.
Wild turkey is pretty good too, especially after a maple brine and hickory smoke in the smoker.
Basically, I don't waste any of the harvest.
It's not the blood, the kill, or the pulling of the trigger that makes it important to me. That's such a small part of it, and frankly, it gives me no joy.
The truth of it is that there's something about hunting and fishing that connects me with something far bigger than me. Not many folks will understand that. Nor do I want to try to convince them.
All I ask is for tolerance.
And yes, I've been involved in chickens, pigs, lambs, veal, and most of the other meats that come so neatly wrapped in the refrigerator case in the supermarket. To be honest, we always gave the critters the best food, care, and life possible. It's as real as my stringbeans and tomatoes.
All part of the "garden" called abundance. Gosh, I love it all.
Thanks for tolerating my rant.

i have hunted, unsuccesfully thus far, for turkey. hard, hard bird. can see almost 360 degrees, detect the slightest movement. they don't suffer fools, and are quick learners.
you described hunting, and the lack of 'joy', very well.

somerfrost · #**153** 02-03-2007, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

Well Fort Dix isn't NJ. Any military base doesn't give you a feel for the state. Plus southern Jersey is more like Maryland than NYC area. Come up from the sticks. Great place.

I didn't live on the base....wife and I had an apartment in Boyertown (sp? Think that's not right spelling) and a short time in Browns Mills...stayed off base as much as possible although my wife worked at PX in McGuire...brought home far too many AF guys...

Danzig · #**154** 02-03-2007, 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

Oops, I missed Maryland...don't know how I did that...lived in Salisbury and Hagerstown.

tsk tsk...
used to pass thru salisbury quite often on the way to chincoteague VA. always my favorite place to be, but that little island has grown too much.

somerfrost · #**155** 02-03-2007, 03:35 PM

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tsk tsk...
used to pass thru salisbury quite often on the way to chincoteague VA. always my favorite place to be, but that little island has grown too much.

I liked Salisbury cause I could get to the beach in 20 minutes...it was an ok place.

Danzig · #**156** 02-03-2007, 03:36 PM

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I liked Salisbury cause I could get to the beach in 20 minutes...it was an ok place.

just about the only thing i miss living down here, the saltwater.

videogirl10 · #**157** 02-03-2007, 03:39 PM

i actually live in a part of virginia that is near where that happened. i also work at the tv station that covered it last week. when the video got back of those poor horses it was very upsetting. we didn't have video of the dead horses, but we did have the ones that lived. it is quite depressing to see that our youth would do this. i think we should just be happy that they were caught, because a lot of times when people do this to animals they aren't.

Downthestretch55 · #**158** 02-03-2007, 03:41 PM

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And second was Jersey no doubt. Where did you live in NJ?

Randall,
I was born in Teaneck, lived there for many years. Also Tenafly, taught in Dumont. I also lived in Palisades Park.
During my highschool days, I spent way too much time in the shore area, Long Branch, Monmouth Beach, Deal...
NJ always has a soft spot in my heart.
Also, my undergrad is from Wm Paterson. (Wayne, NJ)

somerfrost · #**159** 02-03-2007, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by videogirl10

i actually live in a part of virginia that is near where that happened. i also work at the tv station that covered it last week. when the video got back of those poor horses it was very upsetting. we didn't have video of the dead horses, but we did have the ones that lived. it is quite depressing to see that our youth would do this. i think we should just be happy that they were caught, because a lot of times when people do this to animals they aren't.

I agree that it's good they were caught and yes, it is unsettling. We all have a dark side, keeping it in check is sometimes difficult but always necessary.

randallscott35 · #**160** 02-03-2007, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Randall,
I was born in Teaneck, lived there for many years. Also Tenafly, taught in Dumont. I also lived in Palisades Park.
During my highschool days, I spent way too much time in the shore area, Long Branch, Monmouth Beach, Deal...
NJ always has a soft spot in my heart.
Also, my undergrad is from Wm Paterson. (Wayne, NJ)

Willy P. Went to Rutgers myself...Glad to know Jersey has a special place....Don't know where I want to end up. Maybe here, maybe not....If I could take the winters I'd live in upstate NY.