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Old 11-22-2009, 08:40 PM
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outside of the 49 er game , what game would these vikings have lost with

rivers, schaub , or warner at the helm

i can't see any other game
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:44 PM
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outside of the 49 er game , what game would these vikings have lost with

rivers, schaub , or warner at the helm

i can't see any other game
Your argument is all pure speculation which is just as silly as saying that Pennington would be doing the same thing. I am only dealing with facts here.

The facts are what they are. Is it possible that we stay with the facts?
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kurt warner or schaub wouldn't be 9-1 with this team???
Hell no.
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:47 PM
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Hell no.
tell me the game they would have lost , outside of sf , at worst they are 8-2

7 of 10 games of been in the dome for favre, he stunk last year in the winds at the meadowlands


cutler buried him in the denver game
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:52 PM
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when is Cutler going to throw his 5 interceptions. I need Philly to cover.
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Old 11-22-2009, 08:53 PM
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tell me the game they would have lost , outside of sf , at worst they are 8-2

7 of 10 games of been in the dome for favre, he stunk last year in the winds at the meadowlands


cutler buried him in the denver game

Martina Schaub is a woman. Favre hasn't had a receiver the caliber of A. Johnson ever. To claim that woman would equal Favre if he were in Minnesota is ri-goddamn-diculous.

Same with Grandpa Jesus. He's had great receivers at St. Louis and Arizona.
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:00 PM
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Martina Schaub is a woman. Favre hasn't had a receiver the caliber of A. Johnson ever. To claim that woman would equal Favre if he were in Minnesota is ri-goddamn-diculous.

Same with Grandpa Jesus. He's had great receivers at St. Louis and Arizona.

again coach tell me what specific games the vikings would have lost with rivers , warner , or schaub at the controls - i'll give you the 49er game , but i don't see any others
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:01 PM
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again coach tell me what specific games the vikings would have lost with rivers , warner , or schaub at the controls - i'll give you the 49er game , but i don't see any others
I'm not going to take the time to look the games up. This is a stupid scenario.
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:12 PM
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I'm not going to take the time to look the games up. This is a stupid scenario.

det - 2-8 - 2x
gb - 6-4 - 2x
clev - 1-9 -
st louis - 1-9
balt 5-5
sea 3-7
sf 4-6

yeah stupid on your part , they have played 1 team on this list that actually has a winning record, 5 of the 9 wins have come against teams with a combined record of 7-33
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:17 PM
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det - 2-8 - 2x
gb - 6-4 - 2x
clev - 1-9 -
st louis - 1-9
balt 5-5
sea 3-7
sf 4-6

yeah stupid on your part , they have played 1 team on this list that actually has a winning record, 5 of the 9 wins have come against teams with a combined record of 7-33
No its stupid on your part because there are a million other variables that go into whether or not they win those games and its stupid to speculate on what would have happened with another QB.
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:22 PM
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No its stupid on your part because there are a million other variables that go into whether or not they win those games and its stupid to speculate on what would have happened with another QB.
the teams they have played stink , any number of qb's in the league would have them at anywhere from 9-1 to 7-3 at worst

warner , schaub , and rivers all would have killed the packers with having AP in their backfield and the pack commiting to stopping the run
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:27 PM
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the teams they have played stink , any number of qb's in the league would have them at anywhere from 9-1 to 7-3 at worst

warner , schaub , and rivers all would have killed the packers with having AP in their backfield and the pack commiting to stopping the run
whatever. This is dumb speculation. At least have some facts to back up your silly theories.
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:32 PM
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whatever. This is dumb speculation. At least have some facts to back up your silly theories.

ok they would be

5-5

rivers , schaub , warner would have caused the vikings to lose twice to the packers , they would have lost to the 49ers and they would have lost to the ravens ,yup sure , next your going to tell me that these 3 guys with AP and that defense would have lost today to the seahawks and maybe would have lost to the rams and lions as well , oops i forgot the browns would have beaten them too on opening day

favre has played well i'm just not convinced he is the reaason they are 9-1 , i think you could be 6-7 qb's on this team with AP and have them 8-2 at worst

the schedule has been a complete joke , no cold weather games yet either , will see
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:38 PM
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ok they would be

5-5

rivers , schaub , warner would have caused the vikings to lose twice to the packers , they would have lost to the 49ers and they would have lost to the ravens ,yup sure , next your going to tell me that these 3 guys with AP and that defense would have lost today to the seahawks and maybe would have lost to the rams and lions as well , oops i forgot the browns would have beaten them too on opening day

favre has played well i'm just not convinced he is the reaason they are 9-1 , i think you could be 6-7 qb's on this team with AP and have them 8-2 at worst

the schedule has been a complete joke , no cold weather games yet either , will see
Still no facts.
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Still no facts.

it's all subjective , there are no facts because the other qb's play for other teams , so i guess rivers , warner , schub would be 0-10 with this team
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fact - vikings - 2nd easiset SOS for 2009
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it's all subjective , there are no facts because the other qb's play for other teams , so i guess rivers , warner , schub would be 0-10 with this team
Its all speculative which means your argument carries no weight. There are a million variables that come into play that your little mind isnt considering. Could Rivers or Schaub come into this situation and won over the team the way favre did? Could they have adjusted to the players on the field and built chemistry so quickly? Could they have adapted to playing in a completely different system so quickly? Could they have won over the fans the same way? Could Warner have adjusted to not having a big time receiver in his arsenal? He didnt look so good in New York or at the end in St louis when he wasnt throwing to studs. Could he have adjusted? Who is to say any one of them doesnt just come out and play uncharacteristically bad for a couple of those games? Who is to say they don't lose one or two of those games and the bounces start going the other way. Pitt just lost to kc...cincy just lost to oakland...upsets happen in the NFL.

None of your silly speculation takes any of these factors into account. Its impossible to measure. Thats why its STUPID to speculate. GET IT?
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Old 11-22-2009, 09:58 PM
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Its all speculative which means your argument carries no weight. There are a million variables that come into play that your little mind isnt considering. Could Rivers or Schaub come into this situation and won over the team the way favre did? Could they have adjusted to the players on the field and built chemistry so quickly? Could they have adapted to playing in a completely different system so quickly? Could they have won over the fans the same way? Could Warner have adjusted to not having a big time receiver in his arsenal? He didnt look so good in New York or at the end in St louis when he wasnt throwing to studs. Could he have adjusted? Who is to say any one of them doesnt just come out and play uncharacteristically bad for a couple of those games? Who is to say they don't lose one or two of those games and the bounces start going the other way. Pitt just lost to kc...cincy just lost to oakland...upsets happen in the NFL.

None of your silly speculation takes any of these factors into account. Its impossible to measure. Thats why its STUPID to speculate. GET IT?

fact is who have the vikings beaten that is really any good? how many of the 9 wins have come against a team with a winning record - exactly 2 - the packers, fact is they have one of the eaiser schedules to date in the league , it gets a little harder in the next 6 weeks , we will see how he does
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fact is who have the vikings beaten that is really any good? how many of the 9 wins have come against a team with a winning record - exactly 2 - the packers, fact is they have one of the eaiser schedules to date in the league , it gets a little harder in the next 6 weeks , we will see how he does
Perhaps. And perhaps he won't play as well in the next six weeks. Or maybe he keeps it up. My point isn't that he is the greatest QB of all time or even the best in the NFL. The only thing that I maintain is that he is having a GREAT season and that his play puts him amongst the NFL elite...thus far.

I dont care what your schedule is-this is the NFL. You throw for 21 tds and 3 picks and you are having a great season any way you cut it. It is foolish to argue that.
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Perhaps. And perhaps he won't play as well in the next six weeks. Or maybe he keeps it up. My point isn't that he is the greatest QB of all time or even the best in the NFL. The only thing that I maintain is that he is having a GREAT season and that his play puts him amongst the NFL elite...thus far.

I dont care what your schedule is-this is the NFL. You throw for 21 tds and 3 picks and you are having a great season any way you cut it. It is foolish to argue that.
I'm quite dumbfounded. What Favre is doing is amazing. He's also pissing me off that f'n ball hog!!! LOL! No way Jackson or Rosenfels equal what Favre is doing.
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