Overrated Jockeys

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Damn Oracle.I tell ya right now that the gamest animal I have seen in a while is that Howie Zucker horse with the funny name.He fought back so damn gamely. A 3 year old colt named Tontine Too.Ran June 25th at Hwd in race 3.A Florida bred Chestnut by Concerto-Leah's Angel by Caller I.D. You can tell he thinks he is a really nice horse,and is probably the best he will ever have.I think they may have paid a couple hundred k for him(and these people don't spend a whole lot like that.)That guy Richie(from the other site)would probably know more about them.



http://www.tsnhorse.com/cgi-bin/inst...6-06-25&race=3

Scuds I always appreciate any tips on a good one from anyone even though I watch most races I can't watch em all. The only problem with one like that is that if they paid 200 grand they are gonna want a lot of cash for it. Tough to put those together because when someone is looking to spend mid to high 6 figures on a horse it has to have shown grade one type talent on the track or if its a mare have a huge pedigree for residual value.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

These people (Grether guys) are wheeler dealers.I wouldn't be surprised if they were willing to sell him.Like you said,they cut him.So,they have to win money in stakes or high allowance if they are gunna get the value from this horse.Wouldn't surprise me if they would rather make money quickly(rather than have to keep the horse healthy,and run him.)Wouldn't surprise me if they took the sure thing.I remember Zucker saying that when he goes to sales,he has to get bargains etc.,and I don't think he has better clients than Grether.To be honest,I think they would rather sell than take a chance on the horse getting hurt(and then they have a nice horse who they end up losing money on.)I don't think these are the type that turn down sure money.He isn't proven in stakes yet.So they probably have a gelded animal they paid 200k for.They may have gotten 60k in earnings from him.They have no stud value.I bet they would cash out if somebody offered them what they paid originally.Remember,they cut him.They are in recovery mode.I am not sure it was 200k.Somebody else will probably remember what they paid.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Top 2006 Concerto earners

Whos Crying Now $227,200
Bushmills Best $84,520
Tontine Too $81,850


THEY DID PAY 2OOK.