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Old 04-03-2007, 08:59 AM
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Whether Jara is the luckiest rider or not isn't the point. He won the race and the criticism was not only unnecessary, it was classless. I'm sure this idiot would've thought Pat Day was the worst rider in the world because he'd save something and not win by unnecessarily large margins.

Can somebody imagine hearing the owner of a Super Bowl or World Series winning team interviewed after the game and the owner throwing a tantrum?
Well, he won the Donn on the horse as well where he apparently was channeling a Pat Day ride on a $20k turf claimer and came within inches of perhaps ruining a $50 Million horse. And for his ride there, he probably deserved to lose the mount then.

Hamdan may be many things, but he's certainly no idiot.

I can think of at least three riders worse than Pat Day.
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:08 AM
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Angara
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How many G1 races have you won?
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Old 04-03-2007, 10:45 AM
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Angara
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How many G1 races have you won?
Good catch. I forgot Angara. Any idea why Jara's riding 4th call for Mott at Gulf?
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:18 AM
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Jerry, stop instigating.
Now Cajun, if you keep quoting Seattle, my "block" isn't going to be as effective!

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Old 04-03-2007, 11:28 AM
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Invasor probably doesn't get run down by anyone if he's ridden right. But if he moves way too soon and there is some monster behind him, anything is possible.
Right. Cigar got run down by Dare & Go because Bailey was so worried about the speed horse (Siphon?) getting away from him. That's how one long winning streak ended.

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Old 04-03-2007, 11:30 AM
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Now Cajun, if you keep quoting Seattle, my "block" isn't going to be as effective!

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Sorry, Dunbar. Twon't happen again.
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Old 04-03-2007, 11:34 AM
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Thanks, Cajun. Now I feel safe again. ;>)

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Old 04-03-2007, 11:38 AM
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That is incredible. That Sheikh is completely clueless. He has no understanding of horseracing whatsoever. Jara rode the horse perfectly. You never want to move too early and you don't want to ask a horse if you don't have to. In addition, when there is a horse in front of you that you think you can go by at any time, you want to look back and see if anyone else is coming.

The Sheikh Hamdan is so off-base it is incredible. I don't think you would have ever heard Sheikh Muhammad say something like that. I think Sheikh Muhammad has a little better understanding of racing than that.
......... nail on the head.
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Old 04-03-2007, 12:02 PM
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This thread is just amazing. Before anyone else posts, though, let me grab another bag of popcorn...

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Old 04-03-2007, 10:19 PM
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I just watched a replay of th 1973 Belmont. Damn that Turcotte for stealing a peek back on the turn and coasting to the line. He coulda won by 50 lengths if he woulda gone to the whip.... "Just win, baby."
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Old 04-04-2007, 04:47 AM
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It appears that an element of Hamdan's comments may have been motivated by Shadwell Euro 'house' rider Richard Hills, whom you'll note was on board Invasor for his lone career defeat. Those close to the situation believe Hills is likely to be campaigning in advance for the mount on the defending HOY in this fall's BC Classic, and has been badrapping Jara to Hamdan.
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Old 04-04-2007, 06:53 AM
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It appears that an element of Hamdan's comments may have been motivated by Shadwell Euro 'house' rider Richard Hills, whom you'll note was on board Invasor for his lone career defeat. Those close to the situation believe Hills is likely to be campaigning in advance for the mount on the defending HOY in this fall's BC Classic, and has been badrapping Jara to Hamdan.
What a jerk -
I hope Jara takes this constructively and really puts his mind to his riding and proves HE is the one who belongs on Invasor.
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Old 04-04-2007, 09:09 AM
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It appears that an element of Hamdan's comments may have been motivated by Shadwell Euro 'house' rider Richard Hills, whom you'll note was on board Invasor for his lone career defeat. Those close to the situation believe Hills is likely to be campaigning in advance for the mount on the defending HOY in this fall's BC Classic, and has been badrapping Jara to Hamdan.
Perhaps Hills should shut his mouth and concentrate on his riding. If he had been doing that, perhaps he wouldn't have gotten himself into the predicament of losing his ride on Invasor. Jealousy... what an awful thing.
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Old 04-04-2007, 09:22 AM
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What a jerk -
I hope Jara takes this constructively and really puts his mind to his riding and proves HE is the one who belongs on Invasor.
I think the 7 straight wins is doing the most talking..
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Old 04-04-2007, 09:40 AM
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It appears that an element of Hamdan's comments may have been motivated by Shadwell Euro 'house' rider Richard Hills, whom you'll note was on board Invasor for his lone career defeat. Those close to the situation believe Hills is likely to be campaigning in advance for the mount on the defending HOY in this fall's BC Classic, and has been badrapping Jara to Hamdan.
I heard that Hill took a wrath of #^%@ from Hamdan for his losing ride last year. That blame never went public. Funny, they were hushed about Hills, who lost but public about Jara, who won!
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Old 04-04-2007, 10:05 AM
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Not sure about Hamdan but I think Sheikh Mo went to Oxford, not exactly known for turning out grads unfamiliar with English.
if you have the bucks, you can go anywhere for college. even if you can't speak proper english. look at the president, for crying out loud, they let him in yale! whats even worse he brags about being a "c" student. Some rich people should just just own things, real estate , horses, companies and investments. many times when they try to manage them for themselves, well , just look at the world today and you can see the results. when the shiek weighs 110 pounds can ride a horse at 40 mph and not fall off. then he should be giving professional jockeys advice. like i stated before that horse is great because of talent and training. he should enjoy the winning and go the the winners circle, otherwise throw on some silks and mount up ,you ungrateful bag of hot air.
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Old 04-04-2007, 11:12 AM
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I think the 7 straight wins is doing the most talking..
Sorry, I didn't mean to make it sound like I was finding fault in Jara, but that I'd work as hard as possible to be perfect everytime I got on one of the sheik's horses...that's a lot of pressure knowing someone is whispering in the sheiks ear for your job...You would think the 7 wins would have kept Hamdan from making the public comments in the first place. I would have been happy beyond belief that Invasor won.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:01 PM
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It appears that an element of Hamdan's comments may have been motivated by Shadwell Euro 'house' rider Richard Hills, whom you'll note was on board Invasor for his lone career defeat. Those close to the situation believe Hills is likely to be campaigning in advance for the mount on the defending HOY in this fall's BC Classic, and has been badrapping Jara to Hamdan.
Without knowing this information I had the same idea. I figured that there must me some top rider(s) that are chirping in his ear about how he needs to take the mount away from Jara, critiquing everything and pointing out the flaws.

i think it would be a bad move, to make a change. No sense tinkering with something working that well.
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:09 PM
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as i said before in this thread. R Hills is an awful jockey..
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Old 04-04-2007, 12:15 PM
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It appears that an element of Hamdan's comments may have been motivated by Shadwell Euro 'house' rider Richard Hills, whom you'll note was on board Invasor for his lone career defeat. Those close to the situation believe Hills is likely to be campaigning in advance for the mount on the defending HOY in this fall's BC Classic, and has been badrapping Jara to Hamdan.
Richard Hills? Is he related to Jamie Spencer?
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