Censorship on Bloodhorse

[Danzig]

haskin is absolutely speaking the truth regarding the odds of bernardini producing one like him. plenty of others have tried and failed over the years. just read every week about horses moving from ky to other states. fee reductions, etc.
bernardini starts at 6 figures...certainly no guarantee he'll finish that way!!

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

When I tell him YOU said that he will put the article right back up!

3 racing icons things are not going well for:
Beyer/DRF
NYRA
Zito
Funny you've always been definitive in stating your association with each. Good thing I'm not the superstitious type. And they say these things happen in threes. If you see me hitchhiking, please don't pick me up (or run me down!).

Equidaily.com has coverage of this...and as do several blogs, and there is response from Paulick.

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

You better speak with Ray Paulick about that. He's the one that had the article pulled. Of course he's conveniently out of town for a convention.

Still not censorship. And his reasons for pulling it a right on, IMO.

Now if they want to publish it as a Final Turn, that's a different story altogether.

[Merlinsky]

Here's what Ray supposedly said about Haskin. Ray likes to be the one to write stuff like this it seems like. Maybe I'm wrong but seems like comments of import in the commentary section are things he likes to handle.

"The decision to pull Steve Haskin's editorial commentary from bloodhorse.com was mine and mine alone... With the exception of an occasional Final Turn, which is labeled an opinion piece, Steve was not hired to write editorial commentaries on industry issues... This article was billed as a Breeders' Cup wrapup but clearly was written as a commentary; it should not have been posted as written. I'll take the blame for that."

I normally would've caught the article but somehow didn't check Bloodhorse.com in time. The remark about a slim to none chance of Bernardini hitting the big time as a sire or whatever the phrase was is pretty clear to most people. Odds of replicating himself is based on normal numbers in the industry for the last century. Even Man O'War and Secretariat didn't do it. The great Cigar turned out to be sterile. Did Affirmed ever sire another Affirmed? What about Seabiscuit or the Bid? The Sheikhs shouldn't have a problem with the numbers on that what with things like Snaafi Dancer going down. I bet they know darn well that the odds are against them. They also can make for darn sure Bernardini will get the mares he needs. I just don't see them suffering for Steve's remarks and spitefulness by removing the ads is annoying (but typical of the magazine and television industries--heck some companies did it because of boob-gate with Janet Jackson). I'm hoping things'll die down but he was absolutely right and we all know most stallions can't sire a champion whatever their own accomplishments.

I couldn't let things slide without doing a greatest hits of things that made me snicker...there were others but some of these were all on the same page and drove me to point them out.

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

Youuuuuuu'll neeeeeeeeeever walk alooooone

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Sorry, but grounds for at least a successful lawsuit are not " my marketing guy didn't like that ".

(amen)

Originally Posted by oracle80

Some of these guys think Gastrogard is a contraceptive.

(Classic, hall o' fame stuff there oracle)

Originally Posted by Revolution

Listen to Oracle, he knows about lawsuits for saying moronic things.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I find it laughable that someone could sue a writer based upon his opinion of a stallions chances to replicate themselves. I think Reveloution should not be allowed to breed. Sue me.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

I am shocked and stunned at what that mean man Ray Paulick has done!

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

When I tell him YOU said that he will put the article right back up!

(first 'take their ball and go home' remarks by several people and now this...hilarious references to when I was 6 yrs old, awesome)

[Dunbar]

Originally Posted by Honu

Well that is your opinon, I would just say this, that their money would be a big loss to the sport in the USA , they pump alot of money into this "dying industry" as some would say. They buy farms and horses , millions of dollars worth a year, ask any person in the breeding industry and they will tell you that the Sheiks contribute alot of money .
They sponser races that have HUGE purses throughout the world and here in the USA , they give jobs to alot of people here in the USA by having American trainers and farms. Believe me this industry would sorely miss their particpation in American racing.

I agree with Sniper on this. Even if you believe the money from the Sheiks is important for the current state of racing, it's an unhealthy situation to be so dependent on one unstable source of support. The very fact that they COULD decide to get out of the game at any moment suggests it would be wise to not depend on their largesse.

--Dunbar

[slotdirt]

Sheesh, it's not like Haskin's pieces don't usually throw in some sort of commentary or opinion on a particular horse or the business in general.

Originally Posted by slotdirt

Sheesh, it's not like Haskin's pieces don't usually throw in some sort of commentary or opinion on a particular horse or the business in general.

I'm just glad the BC is over.
Moreso than even the Derby the infatuation and obsession with it leads to two months of nonstop talk about nothing but the BC and people get hotheaded about it. Leads to too many arguments and hard feelings.
Derby is littel different because its only one race and then you still have the Preak and Belmont for those who feel they had the best horse in a race to attempt to vindicate themselves. Its not as "final" as the BC is.
If you are a player or in the business or both you realize that life goes on. Plenty of horses to look forward to, races to look forward to, tri crown preps start shortly, and look at tomorrow with its 3 carryovers at 3 major tracks.
Hell this year we even get a horseplayer's paradise FG, opening back up.
Man did the lack of FG hurt me last year. I hate Gulf and its horrible weekday cards. FG always has a lotta grass races, larger fields, and a safe and true dirt track. Lots of good trainers there as well.
This game centers around the BC and Tri Crown, and the hype the sport gets that weekend is necessary for the game to grow, but there is a lot to look forward to and talk about.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Man did the lack of FG hurt me last year.

Yet another innocent victim of Katrina.

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Yet another innocent victim of Katrina.

Many a cold winter Day Paulie and I sat there watching yet another travesty of a Gulf card and complained that very same thing.
Paulie's best quote was something to exactly that same thing. He said "****ing people are complaining about the cost of ****ing gas because of that hurricane and meanwhile we can't play the ****ing Fairgrounds".