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Old 10-10-2006, 06:14 PM
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If Balletto wins this thing, I'll castrate my.....wait I'm not Seattle - I dont say stuff like that. Shes not gonna win though.
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:14 PM
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Hey don't hate me, I've been cheering for that hanger in her last 3 races, I actually start whipping the sofa screaming at her to get up! I'm frustrated!
YOu gotta use a rolled up newspaper and scream YAH!!! as they come down the lane. Make sure you switch sticks and go left handed as well. LOL!!
Ok, I like you now. I forgive you for being a Bernadini worshipper of the obnoxious variety. You are cool.
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:15 PM
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:15 PM
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She just might lack the class and stamina to compete against the best. Maybe Grade 2's and 3's are better suited. And if not they could always run her for an open claimer at monmouth.
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:15 PM
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Listen to you all! You just wait! Im at a loss of words...
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:16 PM
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Listen to you all! You just wait! Im at a loss of words...
WHAT?! YOU?! HAHA
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:16 PM
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She just might lack the class and stamina to compete against the best. Maybe Grade 2's and 3's are better suited. And if not they could always run her for an open claimer at monmouth.
Yeah, well then your bitch ass can claim her for me!
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:19 PM
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ok... im out bitches! peace, love and hair grease! ciao! tah tah! adios!
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:20 PM
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Yeah, well then your bitch ass can claim her for me!
If I did I would run her in the Gardenia at Ellis. She'd probably hang and get second but at least i'd cover most of what I paid for her.
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Old 10-10-2006, 06:47 PM
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YOu gotta use a rolled up newspaper and scream YAH!!! as they come down the lane. Make sure you switch sticks and go left handed as well. LOL!!
Ok, I like you now. I forgive you for being a Bernadini worshipper of the obnoxious variety. You are cool.
LOL!!!! I'm not a Bernardini worshipper, I just believe in what my eyes are telling me. I actually am pulling for Lava Man to win the damn thing, I love that horse, I love a horse with a ton of heart and try, even when Lava Man lost in the Pacific Classic last year he was vanned off for over exertion, he tries so hard, thats a horse to be idolized and revered, not a cheating hanger like Perfect Drift. I just think after watching Bernardini this year that he is just simply a magnificent horse, it's just in the way he effortlessly blows away his rivals. I am one of the people that felt in my heart that he would have won the Preakness, and I LOVED Barbaro.

I'm like you Mike, I love racing and having followed it for so many years, ( I don't want to date myself, but I have watched every Derby since Riva Ridge) I have learned to really enjoy and embrace the stars while we can, God knows they don't last. I certainly don't want to turn my back and not enjoy Bernardini while he is here and accomplishing his feats now. The reality is the truly great and even good horses are not really appreciated until they leave the track, than we realize, too late unfortunately, how genuine and special they were.
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Old 10-10-2006, 07:54 PM
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LOL!!!! I'm not a Bernardini worshipper, I just believe in what my eyes are telling me. I actually am pulling for Lava Man to win the damn thing, I love that horse, I love a horse with a ton of heart and try, even when Lava Man lost in the Pacific Classic last year he was vanned off for over exertion, he tries so hard, thats a horse to be idolized and revered, not a cheating hanger like Perfect Drift. I just think after watching Bernardini this year that he is just simply a magnificent horse, it's just in the way he effortlessly blows away his rivals. I am one of the people that felt in my heart that he would have won the Preakness, and I LOVED Barbaro.

I'm like you Mike, I love racing and having followed it for so many years, ( I don't want to date myself, but I have watched every Derby since Riva Ridge) I have learned to really enjoy and embrace the stars while we can, God knows they don't last. I certainly don't want to turn my back and not enjoy Bernardini while he is here and accomplishing his feats now. The reality is the truly great and even good horses are not really appreciated until they leave the track, than we realize, too late unfortunately, how genuine and special they were.

Ok, I officially love ya. Anyone who screws with you gets a humiliation post.
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Old 10-10-2006, 09:48 PM
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Doll House blows... (literally), we go up there every so often. The others are so-so... never been to Space Odysee.
best in fl mons venus in tampa
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Old 10-10-2006, 09:51 PM
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Overrated IMHO... you been to Lollipops?
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Old 10-11-2006, 12:40 AM
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they should run him into the ground til he wins a race of consequence
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Old 10-11-2006, 01:01 AM
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Ah the Devil's advocate.
The topic is not his riding in general which is good.
Did you see the ride in question? Did you have the DRF so as to base your comments on the ride in an informed manner.
Something tells me you haven't, hence the need for a general comment in response rather than addressing that specific ride.
Link to the replay is posted above, please watch it and tell me what you see. having the pp's so you know about the horses in the race and their running style would help as well. I can email you those if need be.
They all give bad rides. Every last one of them. Gomez gives a bad ride just as much as your beloved JV or Prado or anyone else you want to name.

But that Gomez character has given a couple of championship rides as well.

Hey, isnt he the leading jockey in the country?
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Old 10-11-2006, 01:02 AM
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Gomez is extremely inconsistent. You never know what kind of ride you're going to get...

With that said, I hope he's in good form come Breeders Cup day because Drifty is my pick to win.

Inconsistent? He is the leading rider in the country. How "inconsistent" could he possibly be and wouldnt we all love to be that "inconsistent"?
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Old 10-11-2006, 08:10 AM
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They all give bad rides. Every last one of them. Gomez gives a bad ride just as much as your beloved JV or Prado or anyone else you want to name.

But that Gomez character has given a couple of championship rides as well.

Hey, isnt he the leading jockey in the country?
Ah the Devils Advocate returns.
I note the lack of addressing the ride in which many folks were up in arms about the other day that was so bizarre and awful that many were suspicious of it being intentional. I post the link to the direct replay and yet you choose not to address that issue, which is par for the course in your case.
Most people who can't refute something that someone says resort to addressing the specific issue with a sweeping general statement that makes no mention of the issue. Just like you have here.
Answering the question of what about the bizarre tragic rides hes given this year, despite enjoying great success this year as well, was the issue here.
So I suppose once again we have someone who comments on a race he never watched with pp's he didn't read. It would be rather like myself commenting on the merits of a book I have never read.
So can I assume that you haven't seen the ride in question? And yes, if it wasn't intentional its in the top 5 all time stupidest rides I ever saw, and I've been watching races for 22 years, and I can still remember the all time worst ride I ever saw like it was yesterday, and it took place in May of 1993.
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:04 AM
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Ah the Devils Advocate returns.
I note the lack of addressing the ride in which many folks were up in arms about the other day that was so bizarre and awful that many were suspicious of it being intentional. I post the link to the direct replay and yet you choose not to address that issue, which is par for the course in your case.
Most people who can't refute something that someone says resort to addressing the specific issue with a sweeping general statement that makes no mention of the issue. Just like you have here.
Answering the question of what about the bizarre tragic rides hes given this year, despite enjoying great success this year as well, was the issue here.
So I suppose once again we have someone who comments on a race he never watched with pp's he didn't read. It would be rather like myself commenting on the merits of a book I have never read.
So can I assume that you haven't seen the ride in question? And yes, if it wasn't intentional its in the top 5 all time stupidest rides I ever saw, and I've been watching races for 22 years, and I can still remember the all time worst ride I ever saw like it was yesterday, and it took place in May of 1993.
I watched the race LIVE. Just to further it, I watched Diane Nelson take the race before it and i watched Kent D (another beleaguered rider on here) give a text book turf ride on Symphony of psalms the race after it. Do you think that maybe the instructions were changed? Youre the big time insider guy- why dont you go ask Violette? Without knowing all of the facts, how can you make any kind of claim? Its not like he was on Bernardini. This was a baby race and perhaps the animal was being quirky. But the worst ride ever?

You post the link of a seemingly bad ride but what about the good rides?

No one is playing devil's advocate. I am making a point that YOU were WRONG about Gomez from the start and you have yet to admit.

Tell the truth...DID YOU NOT SAY HE WOULD GET "SCHOOLED" at Saratoga? That didnt happen did it?

So now, every time he has a bad ride, we get a post about it as if you are going to subliminally convince everyone that you were right in the first place.

WHO IS THE NUMBER ONE RIDER IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW? Just answer that.
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Old 10-11-2006, 09:22 AM
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I watched the race LIVE. Just to further it, I watched Diane Nelson take the race before it and i watched Kent D (another beleaguered rider on here) give a text book turf ride on Symphony of psalms the race after it. Do you think that maybe the instructions were changed? Youre the big time insider guy- why dont you go ask Violette? Without knowing all of the facts, how can you make any kind of claim? Its not like he was on Bernardini. This was a baby race and perhaps the animal was being quirky. But the worst ride ever?

You post the link of a seemingly bad ride but what about the good rides?

No one is playing devil's advocate. I am making a point that YOU were WRONG about Gomez from the start and you have yet to admit.

Tell the truth...DID YOU NOT SAY HE WOULD GET "SCHOOLED" at Saratoga? That didnt happen did it?

So now, every time he has a bad ride, we get a post about it as if you are going to subliminally convince everyone that you were right in the first place.

WHO IS THE NUMBER ONE RIDER IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW? Just answer that.
The number one rider is Edgar Prado according to the Bloodhorse. Its a fact. Hes earned more money on American soil than anyone.
Dubai earnings were not counted in Johnny V's failed attempt at Bailey's record a few years ago. They only used American races.
using Dubai races means our top money earner is Electrocutionist(RIP) and i think thats irrational since he never competed here, don't you?
http://racing.bloodhorse.com/leaders.asp?type=JOCKEYS

By the way I'm friendly with Violette since this past Saratoga when I clocked two of his horses in a set one morning in the slop when he worked them late and the clockers didn't catch them, I told him it was the best move i saw all morning in that slop. One came back and won, the other came back 2nd in a stakes race. I was down there two weeks ago and laughed about that in the paddock with him. Hes a tremendously nice guy and very classy. I'm going down a week from Saturday and I will ask him about that race and ride. WIll you accept that as proof of a complete abortion if he says it was?
I highly doubt he asked his jockey to strangle a horse back to last behind a glacial first quarter aftre breaking sharply and making the lead and already displaying a fine win stalking a fast pace.

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Old 10-11-2006, 09:24 AM
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I watched the race LIVE. Just to further it, I watched Diane Nelson take the race before it and i watched Kent D (another beleaguered rider on here) give a text book turf ride on Symphony of psalms the race after it. Do you think that maybe the instructions were changed? Youre the big time insider guy- why dont you go ask Violette? Without knowing all of the facts, how can you make any kind of claim? Its not like he was on Bernardini. This was a baby race and perhaps the animal was being quirky. But the worst ride ever?

You post the link of a seemingly bad ride but what about the good rides?

No one is playing devil's advocate. I am making a point that YOU were WRONG about Gomez from the start and you have yet to admit.

Tell the truth...DID YOU NOT SAY HE WOULD GET "SCHOOLED" at Saratoga? That didnt happen did it?

So now, every time he has a bad ride, we get a post about it as if you are going to subliminally convince everyone that you were right in the first place.

WHO IS THE NUMBER ONE RIDER IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW? Just answer that.
Oh, and he didn't win the title at either belmont spring/summer, saratoga, or belmont fall despite he and his agent doing everything in their power to do so. And he has one of the two superagents. He also won't win the Belmont Fall. All those titles belong to a Mr Edgar Prado!!
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