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Old 05-02-2007, 02:28 PM
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I had him, hubby at Giacomo. If we had only done and exacta with our picks.

Do that this year!!
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:35 PM
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Horses like AGS, Dominican and Great hunter may be in luck.

Despite Tiago having a fairly early pick, word has it that Mike Smith has requested Sheriffs to take the 20 slot. When asked why, Smith remarked that he had such a nice leisurely ride from the 20 post last year with Flashy Bull that he wouldn't mind doing the same thing this year.

He hardly knew there were 19 other horses in the field.
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:50 PM
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All of these improvements in Post positions? This is The K Derby and not some Handycap race. The only thing you need to do is qualify for the race and then all should be treated fairly. The staggered track and field start makes a lot of sense. Line the track with 20 lanes and disqualify any runner that gets out of there lane before the break wheather just before or after the turn. What a madhouse. Lets just run a time trial instead of the derby trial and let the top finishers pick there hole. I dont think the K Derby is broke but if some of you had a chance to "improve" it, serious problems could result.
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Old 05-02-2007, 02:57 PM
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Has anybody ever won from the 19-20 hole ?
Clyde Van Dusen, pp 20; is the correct answer in 1929. sorry I was wrong about Gatodel Sole who broke from 18.

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Old 05-02-2007, 02:58 PM
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All of these improvements in Post positions? This is The K Derby and not some Handycap race. The only thing you need to do is qualify for the race and then all should be treated fairly. The staggered track and field start makes a lot of sense. Line the track with 20 lanes and disqualify any runner that gets out of there lane before the break wheather just before or after the turn. What a madhouse. Lets just run a time trial instead of the derby trial and let the top finishers pick there hole. I dont think the K Derby is broke but if some of you had a chance to "improve" it, serious problems could result.
I hope you're not taking people too serious...
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:01 PM
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Post Position one took down four of the five dirt races over this track on Breeders Cup day---I believe three of which at double digit odds...and the inside is playing better now than it has in some past CD meets.

I know it's a lot different in a 20 horse field, where you have to come out slightly to avoid the rail, and you have a crush of horses trying to get inside, but all chance is CERTAINLY not lost because a horse is breaking from the rail.

With a long run into the first turn, horses drawing on the extreme outside should have every chance to work there way into an ok position.

The draw is very overrated. If you have a real nervous horse, I guess you'd ideally want post #9 or #10, as they will be one of the last three or four to load--and aren't breaking from too far out.

All in all---the post draw is massively overrated.
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:19 PM
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Post Position one took down four of the five dirt races over this track on Breeders Cup day---I believe three of which at double digit odds...and the inside is playing better now than it has in some past CD meets.

I know it's a lot different in a 20 horse field, where you have to come out slightly to avoid the rail, and you have a crush of horses trying to get inside, but all chance is CERTAINLY not lost because a horse is breaking from the rail.

With a long run into the first turn, horses drawing on the extreme outside should have every chance to work there way into an ok position.

The draw is very overrated. If you have a real nervous horse, I guess you'd ideally want post #9 or #10, as they will be one of the last three or four to load--and aren't breaking from too far out.

All in all---the post draw is massively overrated.
Its overrated unless you get the high draws, 17-20, which essentially makes you dead meat. Trips just don't somehow work out from there despite the long run to the turn.
The 1 hole may not be as bad but it does restrict your options.
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Old 05-02-2007, 03:23 PM
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Horses like AGS, Dominican and Great hunter may be in luck.

Despite Tiago having a fairly early pick, word has it that Mike Smith has requested Sheriffs to take the 20 slot. When asked why, Smith remarked that he had such a nice leisurely ride from the 20 post last year with Flashy Bull that he wouldn't mind doing the same thing this year.

He hardly knew there were 19 other horses in the field.
Good one!
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:05 PM
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I can hardly wait!!!

Same here! Last year I correctly predicted the 7 hole for Bob & John. This year I say Street Sense gets Cajun's 9 hole.
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:08 PM
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I'm only 'watching' kentuckyderby.com for the live draw, but in case sumwon sees it before me, will you update? I'll update them with their chosen post positions as I see them go...

Any Given Saturday: 18
Bwana Bull: 11
Circular Quay: 16
Cowtown Cat: 6
Curlin: 2
Dominican: 19
Great Hunter: 20
Hard Spun: 8
Imawildandcrazyguy: 5
Liquidity: 9
Nobiz Like Shobiz: 12
Sam P.: 13
Scat Daddy: 14
Sedgefield: 1
Storm in May: 4
Stormello: 17
Street Sense: 7
Teuflesberg: 10
Tiago: 15
Zanjero: 3

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Old 05-02-2007, 04:12 PM
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Get this Race Car nonsense off the screen. Jesus.
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I'm only 'watching' kentuckyderby.com for the live draw, but in case sumwon sees it before me, will you update? I'll update them with their chosen post positions as I see them go...

Any Given Saturday:
Bwana Bull:
Circular Quay:
Cowtown Cat:
Curlin:
Dominican:
Great Hunter
Hard Spun:
Imawildandcrazyguy:
Liquidity:
Nobiz Like Shobiz:
Sam P.:
Scat Daddy:
Sedgefield:
Storm in May:
Stormello:
Street Sense: 9
Teuflesberg:
Tiago:
Zanjero:
I'll be leaving here in a bit, so I'll catch it at home. Would like to watch live, but oh well.
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:17 PM
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9 is still open Jamie! I wonder if Street Sense will take it... or Liquidity
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:18 PM
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oh shoot Jamie, good luck winning with the 9 post with Liquidity
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:18 PM
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Uh oh!!!!!!!!!
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:18 PM
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Get this Race Car nonsense off the screen. Jesus.
Thanks! LMFAO!!!
I'm sticking with Nobiz and Dominican. There's the exacta, wherever they start.
Horses don't do numbers despite all that hoof tapping...how old is my daughter? tap tap tap tap...
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:23 PM
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Liquidity was one of my original derby picks... holy shiat. LMAO
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:25 PM
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Street Sense drew one of my lucky numbers (I like to play the 3 and 7 normally.)
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:26 PM
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14???
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Old 05-02-2007, 04:27 PM
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14???
I know... not sure I like that.

Post position 14 has only finished in the money 1 time since 1986.
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