Steve Haskin;s Top Derby Contendars

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Before you were sounding trollish or attention seeking.

Now you just sound stupid.

Guy's horses have earned nearly $100 Million and he's in the Hall of Fame.

Won every TC race and, of course, the last two runnings of the FW Hooper (no mean feat!).

How do you define nearly $100mm. From my research he is about $28mm from $100mm. That means he needs to train another 7 years before he reaches the 100mm mark.

Derby - 2-19
Preakness - 1-16
Belmonmt - 1 - 13

So 4 for 48 is not too bad but nothing to really get all excited about.

*NOTE: I believe these numbers are correct. If they, aren't please forgive me and give me the correct numbers.

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by eurobounce

How do you define nearly $100mm. From my research he is about $28mm from $100mm. That means he needs to train another 7 years before he reaches the 100mm mark.

Derby - 2-19
Preakness - 1-16
Belmonmt - 1 - 13

So 4 for 48 is not too bad but nothing to really get all excited about.

*NOTE: I believe these numbers are correct. If they, aren't please forgive me and give me the correct numbers.

You're the only one getting excited.

I'm going to need to consult with my psychic advisor before any further replies to you.

[GPK]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

You're the only one getting excited.

I'm going to need to consult with my psychic advisor before any further replies to you.

B....do you use Dionne Warwick too??!!

[SentToStud]

Originally Posted by T3B

B....do you use Dionne Warwick too??!!

No way.

I use Mystic Zelda.

http://www.helpself.com/zelda1.htm?

[GPK]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

No way.

I use Mystic Zelda.

http://www.helpself.com/zelda1.htm?

"Wouldn't you like to have the same physical/sexual vigor and vitality you had 10-20 years ago?"

Sh*t....I'd settle for the same sexual vigor I had 2 years ago

Originally Posted by SentToStud

As far as I'm concerned, anyone who can train Anromedas Hero to earnngs of $800,000+ doesn't deserve to be in the Hall of Fame; he probably deserves to have his own wing.

That's strong!!

Knocking Zito is laughable. Great thread.

1) Street Sense — He's planning only two starts before the Derby—a one-turn race (possibly the grade II Hutcheson) and then the grade I Toyota Blue Grass.

No, no, no, no!!! What in the hell is going on with this?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by SentToStud

You're the only one getting excited.

I'm going to need to consult with my psychic advisor before any further replies to you.

so hes won the all of the tc races,,and the most coveted derby 2 times....yes he a total bust..lol..

[Danzig]

having a personal issue with someone is one thing, or not 'liking' them...but don't start writing fiction because of a FEELING. and they say women get emotional....

i mean, as a lifelong washington redskins fan, i automatically hated tom landry with all the passion of a youth. but the guy was a hell of a coach. to suggest otherwise would be laughable.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Jax Cajun

I can't bash Zito, because he is who he is, but he has mishandled Sun King's career. This horse ran the two best races of his life in a 7F sprint and the Met Mile. So what does Nick do? Run him in the Classic at a mile and a 1/4.

You fail to realize that could have easily been an owners decision. Do you think Pletcher actually wanted to Keyed Entry in the Derby? um no

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

so hes won the all of the tc races,,and the most coveted derby 2 times....yes he a total bust..lol..

he should hang his head in shame...

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Jax Cajun

I can't bash Zito, because he is who he is, but he has mishandled Sun King's career. This horse ran the two best races of his life in a 7F sprint and the Met Mile. So what does Nick do? Run him in the Classic at a mile and a 1/4.

Winnings: 22 Starts: 6 - 4 - 5, $1,992,978

2004: 3rd BC Juvenile(G1,8.5F), Champagne S.(G1,8.5F)
2005: 1st Pennsylvania Derby(G2,9F), Tampa Bay Derby(G3,8.5F), Leonard Richards S.(G3,8.5F), 2nd Haskell H.(G1,9F), 3rd Jockey Club Gold Cup(G1,10F)

2006: 1st Commonwealth BCS.(G2,7F), 2nd Whitney H.(G1,9F), Metropolitan H.(G1,8F), Albert the Great S.(Bel,8.5F), 3rd Woodward S.(G1,9F)

Originally Posted by Scav

You fail to realize that could have easily been an owners decision. Do you think Pletcher actually wanted to Keyed Entry in the Derby? um no

Without a doubt the owners have a lot of say. Any wonder why Sun King is not standing stud right now? Tracy Farmer loves to watch that horse run, so do I.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Nice of Haskin to have 11 horses in his top 10.....and to include only 55 different horses in that write up. It must have painful to leave Tiago out.


In my opinion, you have six viable contenders as of right now. The top four of which are real elite contenders---you have a decent gap back to the 5th and 6th ranked contenders....and I believe you take a big step back after those two horses. You also have two sensationally talented horses, who are not viable contenders because they are lightly raced and wintering in Dubai. One of which (Day Pass) would also be quite doubtful to see out 10 furlongs against top company.

* My Elite 4 include:

Any Given Saturday, Nobiz Like Shobiz, Street Sense, and Tiz Wonderful.

* My two viable contenders who must further develop:

Great Hunter and Hard Spun.

* The two potential stars who I don't view as viable Derby candidates right now:

Day Pass and Minefield.

[mark2061mn]

My number one pick is the green tortoise!!

if rags to riches were a male, i'd give him a pretty big look, but she isn't, so i wont.

exhale did look really spectacular as well, and looked like he could run alot longer with no problem.

i think nobiz is overrated, but has a look. hard spun has a big look to me as well.

there is another horse that nobody mentions, but the name escapes me right now.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

if rags to riches were a male, i'd give him a pretty big look, but she isn't, so i wont.

You just like her because she's an A.P. Indy half sibling to the immortal Jazil.

[mark2061mn]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

You just like her because she's an A.P. Indy half sibling to the immortal Jazil.

the ap indy part, yeah, that helps. you havent seen her win yet though, have you? her debut was pretty nice too, considering her pedigree and the distance (5.5 in june).

the other 3yo i like some is adore the gold. i havent heard what the plans are for him though.

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

Nice of Haskin to have 11 horses in his top 10.....and to include only 55 different horses in that write up. It must have painful to leave Tiago out.


In my opinion, you have six viable contenders as of right now. The top four of which are real elite contenders---you have a decent gap back to the 5th and 6th ranked contenders....and I believe you take a big step back after those two horses. You also have two sensationally talented horses, who are not viable contenders because they are lightly raced and wintering in Dubai. One of which (Day Pass) would also be quite doubtful to see out 10 furlongs against top company.

* My Elite 4 include:

Any Given Saturday, Nobiz Like Shobiz, Street Sense, and Tiz Wonderful.

* My two viable contenders who must further develop:

Great Hunter and Hard Spun.

* The two potential stars who I don't view as viable Derby candidates right now:

Day Pass and Minefield.

No Circular Quay?

[Cajungator26]

I feel bad for bringing up King Alliance.

Originally Posted by Jax Cajun

No Circular Quay?

Quay is better at sprinting. That is just my opinion.