Del Mar vs Saratoga - Page 5

prudery · #81 06-15-2006, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Dixie..

Who here do you expect is going to "remember" Col. Bradley??? Jeez.. I've talked to John Nerud a handful of times this past 6 weeks, and I wouldn't guarantee that HE remembers Col. Bradley...

The colonel, who was not actually a colonel, probably has been dead for some sixty years . He is most memorable for naming all his horses with names that began with " B " . Black Toney, Black Servant, Busher, Bimelech, Behave Yourself, etc. I would think that Nerud would remember him .

#82 06-15-2006, 07:35 PM

Churchill derby week blows both Saratoga and Del Mar away. Nothing better than the morning at Churchill when the big horses are in the house.

Togacapper · #83 06-15-2006, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

Churchill derby week blows both Saratoga and Del Mar away. Nothing better than the morning at Churchill when the big horses are in the house.

Yeah the week.... Come spend 6 @ SARATOGA

dalakhani · #84 06-16-2006, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Clearly, this is not getting settled in one direction or the other..

I prefer the East Coast generally on everything.. Ess Eff and Portland are the only places on the left coast I care for, and I'd venture to say that La Jolla, and weeks or weekends in and around San Diego, are no less costly than those around here (Toga and vicinity)...

And as for criticizing Monmouth Park, those that would can't possibly have been there.. It's an utter delight. And I'd take an afternoon of sun at Manasquan or LBI, a few races at Oceanport and dinner in Brielle or Sea Girt over similar in San Diego any time.

Ive been to monmouth park multiple times. I am going to be there on july 4th. But an "utter delight" and you would take an afternoon there over a similar experience in San Diego any time? I would say that we certainly have different tastes.

Have you ever noticed the smell that eminates from that place? Have you ever noticed the lifeforms that you see there? There are absolutely the worst accomodations in the history of the world in Long Branch.

Monmouth park is a second tier track. Del Mar is the best of the west. Is Del mar better than Saratoga? Absolutely not. But to compare it to Monmouth? Get real.

Kasept · #85 06-16-2006, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

Ive been to monmouth park multiple times. I am going to be there on july 4th. But an "utter delight" and you would take an afternoon there over a similar experience in San Diego any time? I would say that we certainly have different tastes.

Have you ever noticed the smell that eminates from that place? Have you ever noticed the lifeforms that you see there? There are absolutely the worst accomodations in the history of the world in Long Branch.

Monmouth park is a second tier track. Del Mar is the best of the west. Is Del mar better than Saratoga? Absolutely not. But to compare it to Monmouth? Get real.

Dala..

I have a special attachment to MON.. It was really the first track that I frequented on a regular basis while living in Brielle in the late 80's.. The days when Julie Krone ruined every exotic by depressing the prices... I could never win with her.. and you could never beat her.

I'm just not a West Coast guy... As I mentioned earlier, the only towns I like out there are San Fran and Portland.. LA, San Diego, Seattle.. do nothing for me.

Byebyemermaid · #86 06-16-2006, 06:42 AM

There are pros and cons to both places.As far as racing goes Del-Mar can't shine Saratogas shoes.As far as what to do lets not forget that San Diego is a major city and Saratoga is a small town in upstate NY,that if they didn't have racing would never get the recognition it does.With that said Lake George is a gorgeous area,if you want to take your kids places you can drive to Howe Caverns or even the baseball hall of fame.It goes without saying that the food and nightlife should be better in San Diego and the climate.I've never been to Del-Mar but my brother has and said it was a nice place.

Exceller · #87 06-16-2006, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoisttheflag

Churchill derby week blows both Saratoga and Del Mar away. Nothing better than the morning at Churchill when the big horses are in the house.

I couldn't agree more. I went one year and it is awesome with the tv coverage and the big name horses. You can just sit there for hours in the morning watching the derby horses hit the track.

Exceller · #88 06-16-2006, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Togacapper

Yeah the week.... Come spend 6 @ SARATOGA

Homer. Saratoga would probably be great if you lived there, but 6 weeks anywhere is too long unless it is home. The week going up to the derby is better than any one week at Saratoga.

Gander · #89 06-16-2006, 09:01 AM

You dont need to be here the entire 6 weeks, especially Labor Day. While it is nice that the crowds dwindle, the racing isnt all that great, save for the Forego which is a cute little sprint that I love... and it is kind of depressing as it marks the end of the summer.

Just pick any of the other 5 weekends and you cant go wrong. Every one of them has something for everybody...

Opening weekend- Marks the beginning of the meet, everybody is happy, place is sparkling clean, theres a few good races like the Diana and the Jim Dandy.

Whitney Weekend- Always a nice undercard with the Test, the Whitney is always good for a laugh or a scream.

Sword Dancer- Saratoga's premier turf race, but the real treat is you get great simulcrash action from Arlington Million Day.

Alabama- By this weekend everybody is hungover and the track is looking lie it needs a good cleaning. the fillies provide us with laughs in the Alabama. So much tradition with Farda Amiga and Society Selection.

Travers- The meet's premier race and race card with the lovable Kings Bishop. Let it all hang out because the day after card is always a letdown. The meet for all intensive purposes is over!

#90 06-16-2006, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Dixie Porter

Do any of you "Spa Geniuses" remember E. R. Bradley?

He would bet you the price you paid for your yearling that it would never break it's maiden. Yup, he died a VERY RICH MAN.

Is that possible? You're damn right it was..................

"Colonel" Bradley ... gave all his horses names which began with "B" ... Bimelech, Busher, Baby League, etc.

Not only a great character ... but a great contributor to the success of the game.

Once again ... Dixie's memory enlightens us.

#91 06-16-2006, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler

If housing is taken care of Saratoga is a great place. The rental costs up there on houses and the nightly cost of a hotel are out of control though. Every year I get suckered into staying in Saratoga, but after this year I am going to stay 30 minutes outside Saratoga.

Hey Cheech ...

I have been to Del Mar ... only once, but I was there ... and I've been going to Saratoga since 1962 ... when I made some dough betting on Firm Policy over Cicada in the Alabama.

And it IS possible to stay in Saratoga without having to sell your soul to Lucifer ... Mrs. Brooklynite and I will be enjoying the Spa this year for $99 per night in a comfortable place with a nice swimming pool just 7 minutes from the track.

Kasept · #92 06-16-2006, 12:57 PM

Hey.. Enough.. I yanked the unpleasantries and will continue to do so,

Tone down the rhetoric. The threats... the grandstanding... the self-congratulatory... Enough to discuss without the b.s.

A huge weekend of racing on tap... I don't care what went on elsewhere. It's adult swim around here...

Thx..
SB

#93 06-16-2006, 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Hey.. Enough.. I yanked the unpleasantries and will continue to do so,

Tone down the rhetoric. The threats... the grandstanding... the self-congratulatory... Enough to discuss without the b.s.

A huge weekend of racing on tap... I don't care what went on elsewhere. It's adult swim around here...

Thx..
SB

Thanks Anton Scalia. Why don't you go through all the threads and pull all the unpleasantries? Just censor the ones you or this loudmouth doesn't like? Nice to know that freedom of speech is alive and well in america.

Kasept · #94 06-16-2006, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler

Thanks Anton Scalia. Why don't you go through all the threads and pull all the unpleasantries? Just censor the ones you or this loudmouth doesn't like? Nice to know that freedom of speech is alive and well in america.

I'm doing the best I can to minimize the unpleasantries when I see them.. I don't particularly have time to supervixe this 24/7... I'm naively relying on the maturity of those that post to conduct themselves accordingly.

#95 06-16-2006, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

I'm doing the best I can to minimize the unpleasantries when I see them.. I don't particularly have time to supervixe this 24/7... I'm naively relying on the maturity of those that post to conduct themselves accordingly.

You do an excellent job. Bold Brooklynite just made a comment that annoyed me. His has made it clear on this site that he isn't a horse person and has little concern about the animals so I really shouldn't have taken him that seriously.

Kasept · #96 06-16-2006, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by boldruler

You do an excellent job. Bold Brooklynite just made a comment that annoyed me. His has made it clear on this site that he isn't a horse person and has little concern about the animals so I really shouldn't have taken him that seriously.

BR,

I heard about that comment and agree it was midguided, hurtful and uncalled for. I've promised everyone here that I'll promote an environment of civility and mutual respect. It will be impossible for me to legislate every slight, back-handed or vindictive insult, but think if we all set a harmonious tone early in the life of this community, it will ultimately be self-policing.

I'm proud of a great number of people that have made their home here that have shown restraint despite reputations earned elsewhere as "problematic" posters.. I want this to be the best place on the Net for racing fans to congregate, and know that it's possible.

(BTW.. I must admit I got a kick out of the Scalia line given that those who know me well know that my political views are closer to Trotsky's than his...)

Steve

#97 06-16-2006, 06:32 PM

Geting back to the original topic ... Saratoga and Del Mar ...

... another delightful morsel at Saratoga is the yearling sales. It's always pleasurable to get a closeup look at the babies arriving from Kentucky and various other points ... then getting bedded down in their new temporary homes ... being displayed to potential buyers ... and finally the actual auction ... which is open to the public and televised throughout the area around the sales pavilion ...

... and to save the catalog and follow the 2YOS the following year.

Only Keeneland can match Saratoga for high-end yearling sales.

paisjpq · #98 06-16-2006, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite

Geting back to the original topic ... Saratoga and Del Mar ...

... another delightful morsel at Saratoga is the yearling sales. It's always pleasurable to get a closeup look at the babies arriving from Kentucky and various other points ... then getting bedded down in their new temporary homes ... being displayed to potential buyers ... and finally the actual auction ... which is open to the public and televised throughout the area around the sales pavilion ...

... and to save the catalog and follow the 2YOS the following year.

Only Keeneland can match Saratoga for high-end yearling sales.

yes--get there at four AM to see the que of vans all unloading @ one dock and the little lunatics getting off the truck on what is probably the first of many road trips...it is so much fun!

#99 06-16-2006, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

I heard about that comment and agree it was midguided, hurtful and uncalled for. I've promised everyone here that I'll promote an environment of civility and mutual respect.

Hmmm ... is it "civil" and/or "mutually respectful" to make definitively negative judgments about a "comment" of which you've only heard ... second-, third-. or fourth-hand ... but not actually read yourself?

"Misguided" ... "hurtful" ... "uncalled for" ... don't sound very civil or mutually respectful ... do they?

I know you're trying very hard and very earnestly to herd cats ... but in attempting to placate the unplacatable ... have you unwittingly made unkind and unlearned commentary of the type which you yourself would justifiedly pull down?

Just wondering.

#**100** 06-16-2006, 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq

yes--get there at four AM to see the que of vans all unloading @ one dock and the little lunatics getting off the truck on what is probably the first of many road trips...it is so much fun!

Indeed ... but I'd describe them more as scared children than little lunatics ... although sometimes the distinction between the two is razor thin.