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Old 05-21-2021, 09:28 AM
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Old 05-27-2021, 07:00 AM
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Two more civil suits filed against Baffert. Each one more ridiculous than the next.

I dislike Baffert as much as anyone but this is so the wrong way to do it.
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Old 05-27-2021, 10:06 AM
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Two more civil suits filed against Baffert. Each one more ridiculous than the next.

I dislike Baffert as much as anyone but this is so the wrong way to do it.
I have no problem with people suing him...but I’m pretty sure they will be unsuccessful.
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Old 05-27-2021, 10:30 AM
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then what is the right way? not questioning,, just asking ur opinion if there is another way
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Old 05-27-2021, 11:23 AM
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then what is the right way? not questioning,, just asking ur opinion if there is another way
The right way for what?
For people to get their money back?
That will never happen.
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Old 05-27-2021, 01:00 PM
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I have no problem with people suing him...but I’m pretty sure they will be unsuccessful.
Right...it’s going to be a big waste of time. The latest one is suing Churchill also saying Medina Spirit shouldn’t even have been allowed to run.
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Old 05-27-2021, 01:05 PM
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then what is the right way? not questioning,, just asking ur opinion if there is another way
Well I’m not sure what the goal is. They are never getting any money back. Churchill isn’t paying them and neither is Baffert or Zedan. All they are doing is getting publicity for themselves....which for some is probably the goal.

Baffert has been allowed to push the envelope for too long at this point. The only way he is put in check is for tracks to actually punish him when he spits in their face and pretends rules don’t matter.
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Old 06-01-2021, 08:59 PM
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I am not a Baffert apologist but I have nothing against the cheaters because, as I've said, I've suspected that most everyone either crosses or goes right up to the line. Many times on here, I've expressed where I would like to see horses run and I get told how I'm very cavalier with other people's property/money. I get told that the job of the trainer is to pick the spots where the horse fits best and gives the owner the best chance to make money on their investment. The talk about Baffert cheating is not new. It's been talked about for years and years. Yet, owners keep sending their top stock to him year after year. So what does that tell you? They are willing to take the risks because the rewards are so great. The sport's governing bodies have never done anything to give Baffert reason to stop doing what he's been doing so in my opinion, he'd be a complete idiot to stop. Why? Cause some fans are upset that the playing field is not completely even? Is his responsibility to us or to the owners that give him their horses? Some of you need to get with reality. If he can do what he does and make himself more successful than any trainer in history while making tons of money and happiness for his owners and only suffer minor slaps on the wrist, i'm sorry but there is just no reason for him to stop.

I've bet this sport for many years always believing cheating was going on. If Baffert were banned for life tomorrow, I'd continue to bet just like I always have and I'd continue to believe that people in the game were cheating. To me, Baffert's just a bad cheater cause he keeps getting caught while others are good enough to know how to not get caught.


Perfectly said....

Maybe tracks should just make Ol' Bob use riders from Grants Pass to level the playing field.
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