Gomez To Announce His Mount

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Please....he barely lost to Quality Road on a speed favoring track. QR had a MUCH easier trip that day, and Dunkirk still gave him a run for his money. POTN beat IWR, who is a very nice horse, no doubt. Is he better than Quality Road, not so sure. Papa Clem beat an injured horse who was not gonna get the distance at OP, and behind that a bunch of real bad horses.

In my opinion Gomez chose a horse who is unproven on dirt and will be a question mark getting the distance. That's where I believe he made the mistake.


Hey, I hope the betting public hammers POTN,IWR, and Papa Clem. That way I will get a good price on Dunkirk.

None of this changes the fact that Dunkirk has not come close to beating a better field of horses than Pioneer has. The one horse of quality that he faced, he lost to. The horses behind him that day and in his first two wins weren't better than what Pioneer has faced. Now, if you wanted to compare what Pioneer has defeated to what Quality Road has defeated, your argument would have more relevance. But to compare it to what Dunkirk has beaten is kinda....no, very.....stupid.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Ok genius. Where does Gomez plan on riding most of the year? If you can figure that out then the next question. Who has a bigger presence in that area ?

Ya think that had something to do with his decision ?

Who cares? The point is that you said POTN had beaten "horrendous" fields this year. A statement you later retracted.

As usual, the longer you run your mouth, the more you confuse yourself.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by ezgoerbaby

Dunkirk is going to take a ton of money and he is going to need EVERYTHING to go perfectly. I question Dunkirk's ability to get 1 1/4, especially with the way he looked after the FL derby...looked like he was going to collapse. I will admit though...he's a game SOB...he kept on trying.

How do you figure Dunkirk will take a lot of money? Based on Pletcher's record in the derby ?

While will he need everything to go perfectly? Not sure what you are getting at. I think the other 19 horses would also need things to go their way to win.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

How do you figure Dunkirk will take a lot of money? Based on Pletcher's record in the derby ?

While will he need everything to go perfectly? Not sure what you are getting at. I think the other 19 horses would also need things to go their way to win.

I think my work is done here.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

So, the fact that I was wrong about the state of the American economy is somehow an indictment on the entire internet because I have a blog that people read? Interesting logic.

And yes, as soon as I realized the economy was heading south, I said to myself "Ya know, I probably should stay away from DerbyTrail.com for a while."

Also, you are an idiot.

Apparently you did because you were nowhere to be seen. You wouldn't shut up about how wrong I was. Your argument about the DJIA was HYSTERICALLY wrong. But that isn't an area you have a clue about so I shouldn't be tough on you with that I guess.


My point is, with the freedom of the internet, any idiot like yourself can start a blog.

Your little horsey bog is cute.....really.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Apparently you did because you were nowhere to be seen. You wouldn't shut up about how wrong I was. Your argument about the DJIA was HYSTERICALLY wrong. But that isn't an area you have a clue about so I shouldn't be tough on you with that I guess.


My point is, with the freedom of the internet, any idiot like yourself can start a blog.

Your little horsey bog is cute.....really.

True. Any idiot can start a blog. But it takes a special kind of idiot to question whether or not Dunkirk will take money, especially considering his Pool 3 odds, when his Derby status was questionable at best.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

None of this changes the fact that Dunkirk has not come close to beating a better field of horses than Pioneer has. The one horse of quality that he faced, he lost to. The horses behind him that day and in his first two wins weren't better than what Pioneer has faced. Now, if you wanted to compare what Pioneer has defeated to what Quality Road has defeated, your argument would have more relevance. But to compare it to what Dunkirk has beaten is kinda....no, very.....stupid.

Your point about the horses that Dunkirk has ACTUALLY beaten makes good sense. If he gets up and beats Quality Road then the argument is valid.

Dunkirk is faster, has won on dirt, and I believe will love the 1 1/4. POTN is slow, never ran on dirt, and after watching his last 2 races I have a feeling he will move way too early in the Derby and flatten out.

[HaloWishingwell]

As for quality of fields , who knows? They haven't raced long enough to make that decision and with so many preps all over the country the talent gets divided everywhere until they finally meet in the Triple Crown and beyond.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

I think my work is done here.

Back into hiding already?

That didn't take too long.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

Who cares? The point is that you said POTN had beaten "horrendous" fields this year. A statement you later retracted.

As usual, the longer you run your mouth, the more you confuse yourself.

His last 2 races were against horrendous fields. I stand by that genius.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Back into hiding already?

That didn't take too long.

Oh, I won't be hiding. I have a blog on KentuckyDerby.com that's really cute. Remember?

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

I think my work is done here.

I was being sarcastic you moron I am sorry you didn't catch on. I have to dumb things down when posting to you I guess.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

True. Any idiot can start a blog. But it takes a special kind of idiot to question whether or not Dunkirk will take money, especially considering his Pool 3 odds, when his Derby status was questionable at best.

Who will offer better value? Dunkirk or POTN ?

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

Oh, I won't be hiding. I have a blog on KentuckyDerby.com that's really cute. Remember?

What are the qualifications to have a "blog" on there besides a keyboard and a pulse rate?

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

I was being sarcastic you moron I am sorry you didn't catch on. I have to dumb things down when posting to you I guess.

Yes, your "sarcasm" was pretty clear, now that I go back and look at it.

The retroactive claim of sarcasm is second only to the premature final-post declaration when it comes to my favorite DT tactics.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

What are the qualifications to have a "blog" on there besides a keyboard and a pulse rate?

Readers.

[justindew]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

Who will offer better value? Dunkirk or POTN ?

I'd like to hear your definition of "value" before I answer this. My guess is you are stupidly associating higher odds with value.

[ezgoerbaby]

Originally Posted by stonegossard

How do you figure Dunkirk will take a lot of money? Based on Pletcher's record in the derby ?

While will he need everything to go perfectly? Not sure what you are getting at. I think the other 19 horses would also need things to go their way to win.

Basically because he's a hyped horse. He may win...but I'd bet that he doesn't...I think he probably has a hell of a shot in the Preakness...I don't like his lack of foundation...they rushed this horse in, and yes, he will need everything to go perfectly, if he gets stopped in the middle of a run, I don't think he will be able to recover as well as some of the other horses...he's not frigging Alysheba.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

Readers.

Oustide of a bib to keep the dribble off of their clothes, must they have a pulse rate also?


If so you might be out of luck getting an audience.

[stonegossard]

Originally Posted by justindew

I'd like to hear your definition of "value" before I answer this. My guess is you are stupidly associating higher odds with value.

It's pretty simple Justin. One horse who is proven on dirt and faster will be at higher odds than a horse who has never ran on dirt and is slower. I think it's pretty clear cut where the "value" is.

So I guess a genius like yourself doesn't take into account odds/returns when considering "value".

Keep burying yourself.