Note to Garret Gomez

[Gander]

Again, he should be an easy throw out in every race for you. I know I feel that way about some jockeys like Mike Luzzi. Except of course yesterday on the Dog.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Yes, I saw that race. He got that horse into some trouble. I don't know if she could have won the race or not. She had room late on the rail but she flattened out a little. It's tough to tell if she could have won or not. The only time I will say that a jock definitely cost a horse a race in that type of situation is when the horse is flying late. When a horse finds some room and then just makes a mediocre run, I'm not going to say that they would have won the race. This filly might have made a better late run if she was outside. She may not have liked being down on the rail. There's no way to know for sure.

Anyway, these guys get into trouble in full fields sometimes. Solis got his horse in a ton of trouble in the 7th at Del Mar today. It's hard to tell if she would have done anything with a good ride. She made a little, late run after having a lot of trouble. I doubt she could have won but she had a pretty bad trip. By the way, I had no action on either of those races so I had no emotional stake on the outcome.

Hes got to be incredibly stupid Rup, he just has to be. Why would you break so well and angle over and do everything right, then see a guy coming outside whos gonna lock you in and not do anything about it. I truly think the guy likes trouble. I think he gets a thrill out of doing things the hard way.

Originally Posted by LOSE=GLUE

Man it sounds like he is so stupid he can't win a race but yet he leads the nation in $ won. What does that say about all the other jockeys you bet on they must really be some talent if gomez is that dumb. If i thought they were that dumb i could never wager my hard earned money on them. SOUNDS TO ME LIKE YOUR THE DUMB ONE! now you sit and critisize his ride from last to 1st and you say that wasn't rocket science and I agree, cause i could see the times as they were running. NOT AFTER THE RACE WAS OVER!

I never criticized his ride in that race you illiterate moron. Go back and read it again, I said it wasn't a brilliant ride, he just happened into it because his horse tripped out. Nothing wrong with that.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Terrible? Just terrible? Resounds ride wasnt rocket science either. Horse was last behind a 43:4 half mile and closed, umm, hedidnt do anything wrong or brilliant, just an ok ride. You sit here railing on about poor criticized Gomez and the best you can say after watching the 5th replay is terrible? How about absolutely incredibly stupid and embarassing, and that would only begin to scratch the surface of how stupidly he rode that race.
He is just plain inconsistent.

That was a great ride by Gomez in that 7th race. He realized how fast they were going and he dropped way back. If Prado would have realized how fast they were going the other day in the Songster race, he could have dropped 4-5 lengths back and won the race.

[Gander]

And I never said it was a brilliant ride. Go back and read my post Mike. I said Reound was awesome today and he was awesome. Thats a nice feather in Clement's cap and time for him to Giddy Up! This weekend he has a ole familiar guy running named Relaxed Gesture. Giddy Up!

[Gander]

Christophe "I Can So" Clement has to Giddy Up to beat English Channel. But a little birdie told me hes doing very well and ready for Saturday's showdown

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

That was a great ride by Gomez in that 7th race. He realized how fast they were going and he dropped way back. If Prado would have realized how fast they were going the other day in the Songster race, he could have dropped 4-5 lengths back and won the race.

Rupert you are usually sharp but that was about the single most ignorant thing you ever posted. he didn't "choose" to drop back. You obviously didn't have the DRF today or you would see that she has absolutely no sprint speed and was last early in a turf sprint the last time she was in one as well. That wasn't a choice. She couldnt go anywhere near those fractions if she tried. Are you trying to tell me he chose that course of action as if he actually had another option? Come on now, you are better than that.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Hes got to be incredibly stupid Rup, he just has to be. Why would you break so well and angle over and do everything right, then see a guy coming outside whos gonna lock you in and not do anything about it. I truly think the guy likes trouble. I think he gets a thrill out of doing things the hard way.

I don't think he saw that guy coming outside of him. It was a really premature move that the other rider made. It happened just past the half-mile pole. I think it totally caught Gomez by surprise because it was such a sudden, premature move by the other rider and it happened very quickly. It was definitely Gomez' fault. You have to be paying attention and expect the unexpected. You can't let someone come outside of you at that point in the race. It would have forced Gomez to move sooner than he would have liked, but you don't have much choice at that point in the race. Once in a while you will see horses still win after getting passed at that point, but it doesn't happen often.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Rupert you are usually sharp but that was about the single most ignorant thing you ever posted. he didn't "choose" to drop back. You obviously didn't have the DRF today or you would see that she has absolutely no sprint speed and was last early in a turf sprint the last time she was in one as well. That wasn't a choice. She couldnt go anywhere near those fractions if she tried. Are you trying to tell me he chose that course of action as if he actually had another option? Come on now, you are better than that.

You might be right. They were going very fast and that may have been the closest he could have been. But I have seen Gomez take horses much further back than they have ever been before if the pace is fast. He's not afraid to drop 15 lengths back if the pace is fast enough. Other riders might have tried to push that filly to try to keep her a little closer. Gomez was not asking the filly at all early on. In addition, he was smart to get her outside once they straightened away. Some of these guys would have tried to split horses and may not have made it through.
I've told you exactly what his style is. He tries to save ground around the turns and then he tries to swing outside at the top of the lane. That was your typical Gomez ride in the 7th race.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't think he saw that guy coming outside of him. It was a really premature move that the other rider made. It happened just past the half-mile pole. I think it totally caught Gomez by surprise because it was such a sudden, premature move by the other rider and it happened very quickly. It was definitely Gomez' fault. You have to be paying attention and expect the unexpected. You can't let someone come outside of you at that point in the race. It would have forced Gomez to move sooner than he would have liked, but you don't have much choice at that point in the race. Once in a while you will see horses still win after getting passed at that point, but it doesn't happen often.

It was just awful but you saw the ride like I did so I guess you know that.
Its not like i wake up each day hoping the little twerp will give a bad ride I can talk about you know? I wish he would just ride well. But he really gives rides like that one about once a day and its just plain unprofessional to be so stupid. Really dislike the man, I really do. I can see now why he got into so much trouble.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by oracle80

It was just awful but you saw the ride like I did so I guess you know that.
Its not like i wake up each day hoping the little twerp will give a bad ride I can talk about you know? I wish he would just ride well. But he really gives rides like that one about once a day and its just plain unprofessional to be so stupid. Really dislike the man, I really do. I can see now why he got into so much trouble.

I don't think it was so much a case of stupidity on Gomez' part. I think Coa pretty much outwitted him in the race. Coa's move was not a move that I would normally recommend, but in this case it was a good tactical decision that was probably made on the spot based on the circumstances. I think Coa saw that he had a chance to trap Gomez and Coa probably thought that Gomez was on the horse to beat. I think this was actually the type of thing that Scuds has talked about.

By the way, it's not always as easy as you think to react to a move like the move that Coa made. These horses don't all have push-button acceleration. Gomez' horse was just cruising down the backstretch. Coa kind of gunned his horse at that one instant. If Gomez didn't see the move immediately, which I don't think he did, it was too late for him to do anything. The other horse got the jump on him. These guys don't have four eyes. They only have two. They try to be aware of what is going on around them and they will often take a peak over their shoulders, but they can't see everything.

I think Coa basically outsmarted Gomez in the race. Coa is becoming a very good rider.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I don't think it was so much a case of stupidity on Gomez' part. I think Coa pretty much outwitted him in the race. Coa's move was not a move that I would normally recommend, but in this case it was a good tactical decision that was probably made on the spot based on the circumstances. I think Coa saw that he had a chance to trap Gomez and Coa probably thought that Gomez was on the horse to beat. I think this was actually the type of thing that Scuds has talked about.

By the way, it's not always as easy as you think to react to a move like the move that Coa made. These horses don't all have push-button acceleration. Gomez' horse was just cruising down the backstretch. Coa kind of gunned his horse at that one instant. If Gomez didn't see the move immediately, which I don't think he did, it was too late for him to do anything. The other horse got the jump on him. These guys don't have four eyes. They only have two. They try to be aware of what is going on around them and they will often take a peak over their shoulders, but they can't see everything.

I think Coa basically outsmarted Gomez in the race. Coa is becoming a very good rider.

I cant remember the race, but I saw EBAR get a horse thru close to the wire on the rail. I still cant believe he got the horse thru. You just dont see many horses on the dirt slipping by at near the rail at the tail end of the race. It was so odd I tried to find it on racereplays for a head on but I cant find it... Anyone see this? It was either on Friday or Sunday. I really want to see what was happening.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by pgardn

I cant remember the race, but I saw EBAR get a horse thru close to the wire on the rail. I still cant believe he got the horse thru. You just dont see many horses on the dirt slipping by at near the rail at the tail end of the race. It was so odd I tried to find it on racereplays for a head on but I cant find it... Anyone see this? It was either on Friday or Sunday. I really want to see what was happening.

He brought Swap Flipparoo up the rail in the Test on Saturday. I don't know if that's what you're thinking of.