BC Stunner: 2 days, 3 new races..

[GinaIsWild]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Johannesburg ran in a big turf sprint....the July Cup. If you hurry over you can catch him finishing.

Texas Glitter? Come on!

I wasn't annointing them superstars of all time, but you have to admit, a turf sprint is a very interesting race, which would attract a broad mix of horses from both the US and Europe. My response was to the poster who said there are no such horses worthy of racing for a million dollars. That is just not so.

[SniperSB23]

This creates even more reason for revamping the Derby selection criteria. The top two finishers in the BC Juvenile Turf will be able to get into the Derby every year.

[Gander]

We need another 2 year old race like we need another thread about Nick Saban. We need a turf sprint for the fans and bettors.

Not sure what it matters to anyone on this board whether or not so and so deserves to earn a million dollar purse. Put a turf sprint out there and I guarntee you as much money will be bet on that race as with any of the BC races save for the Classic.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Jfeld

I wasn't annointing them superstars of all time, but you have to admit, a turf sprint is a very interesting race, which would attract a broad mix of horses from both the US and Europe. My response was to the poster who said there are no such horses worthy of racing for a million dollars. That is just not so.

At most there are VERY few.

I'm sure if they scheduled a $250K Turf sprint they would get virtually the same field. What is the purse of the Prix de l'Abbaye...the big Euro turf sprint run on Arc day?

[GinaIsWild]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

At most there are VERY few.

I'm sure if they scheduled a $250K Turf sprint they would get virtually the same field. What is the purse of the Prix de l'Abbaye...the big Euro turf sprint run on Arc day?

I'm ok with that too, I'd just like to see it included in the Breeders Cup, certainaly more so than the completely unecessary Juvenile Turf. You could just write a 100k race instead of a million for that group and the same horses would be in there.

[brockguy]

A turf sprint could have formed part of the global sprint challenge where the best from europe, asia and australia could have taken part.. that would have raised the world profile of the cup..

[JJP]

A Breeders Cup all-weather race would make more sense than a turf sprint, IMO. By the end of next year, there's going to be quite a few all-weather tracks in the U.S. My guess is that would be the next race, IF they add any more.

[cmorioles]

That was my point, BC races are worth a million, so why bother with a turf sprint when you only need to pay a little? Any of the horses you mentioned could have run in other races anyway.

If you have an all weather race, you now have two locations. My guess is BC races will just be run on polytrack if that is the venue. Noone is going to admit this stuff isn't dirt, and too many big tracks will have it so you won't be able to avoid them forever

If for some reason they did run an "all weather" race, isn't that like admitting the surface is inferior?

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Enough of this ridiculous BC Turf sprint stuff. Could someone please name me a turf sprinter that deserved to race for a million dollar purse in the last decade, or even two?

Amen!

Klassy Briefcase.

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[SCUDSBROTHER]

Since they can't seem to get anything but di cked-up tracks for this so called "important day," I could really care less about it anymore.They have turned it into a meaningless crapshoot.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

That was my point, BC races are worth a million, so why bother with a turf sprint when you only need to pay a little? Any of the horses you mentioned could have run in other races anyway.

If you have an all weather race, you now have two locations. My guess is BC races will just be run on polytrack if that is the venue. Noone is going to admit this stuff isn't dirt, and too many big tracks will have it so you won't be able to avoid them forever

If for some reason they did run an "all weather" race, isn't that like admitting the surface is inferior?

Pretty much. It is fake dirt, although they are always trying to get more Euro involvement, and this would do that. But its only a matter of time before the BC comes back to Hol or SA...maybe AP will even get it again. So maybe adding a single race at another track would be a moot point.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

one more day at the races..changing the travel plans of many and putting big bucks into host citys..

I was already going to be there Friday, so this is an added bonus.

[brockguy]

Originally Posted by JJP

The only logical reason I can think of for adding a 2YO turf race is they are clearly trying to get more European participation. Seen how few of our 2YO races are carded on the grass, you'll probably see a bunch of recent Maiden graduates running in the Breeders Cup.

for our 2yo G1 races, thats quite common. Authorized, won the Racing Post Trophy, a G1 race over a mile on his 2nd start. On his debut, he came third!!

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I'll give you Stravinsky and maybe Dayjur. Elusive Quality was a decent turf miler, world record holder I believe. Mizzen Mast was pretty good on dirt if I recall, winning the Malibu and Strub, so why would he need a turf sprint?

Mizzen Mast is sooo cool! If you go to Juddmonte's website you can watch his Malibu. (I didn't mean to make that rhyme )

[ManilaRose]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Thank God, finally a BC race at the important mile and 70 yard distance. To think, now we can add new names to the many immortals who have thrived at that distance.

Aldebaran would certainly have like to see a dirt mile BC race on the card.

Originally Posted by ManilaRose

Aldebaran would certainly have
like to see a dirt mile BC race on the card.

Only if it was a 1 turn mile.
They're races of a different color: 1 turn miles and 2 turn miles.

Aldebaran was tried at 2 turns by Mr. Frankel
and he failed at Churchill Downs.

He was a 7 panel specialist and one of those types
that really didn't fit neatly into the Breeder's Cup agenda.
He should have just stayed home on that day instead of
trying to weave through an impossible roadblock of equines from waay back.

[packerbacker7964]

All righty now how about a Pick 11 or Place 11? Man that ticket would be the bomb if you hit it. At least you'll maybe able to get like a Sprint Double or Daily Double.

[JJP]

Originally Posted by ManilaRose

Aldebaran would certainly have like to see a dirt mile BC race on the card.

And he would've found a way to run second. Didn't seem to matter if it was a Grade 1 or a classified allowance, somebody always had to finish in front of him.

[Gander]

Didnt Alberran win the Met Mile? Thats a pretty big acomplishment. Grade 1
I think.