Shake You Down

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Danzig188

lol
people would be shocked i think...well, maybe not. i have a quick temper, but it cools pretty rapidly. i'd hate to put up something that i know five minutes later i would be embarrassed about typing--especially since it's not something i would say out loud. i try to walk away for a few minutes if someone ticks me off, so i don't put into words exactly what is in my head.

cooler heads must prevail.

I do my absolute best to remain neutral (although I often have an opinion on the 'fight of the day') so I find myself writing things out and then just hitting the back button like you said.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Me three, I cancel a lot of posts myself Bethani. Take a long time to type them, then think and hit the back button.

wow, i'd hate to see what THOSE posts look like -- the ones that even YOU think shouldn't be posted

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

wow, i'd hate to see what THOSE posts look like -- the ones that even YOU think shouldn't be posted

that IS a scary thought, isn't it??

Originally Posted by Danzig188

that IS a scary thought, isn't it??

I wish I had them saved on file Zieg, I could email them to you for hours of laughter and fun.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I wish I had them saved on file Zieg, I could email them to you for hours of laughter and fun.

by the way, if you're going to be posting all day today -- i'd be careful to not waste post 6,000 on something useless.

As an avid watcher of the countdown to your 6,000th post, I am hoping for some sort of "state of New York Racing" comment, or some sort of backhanded, slightly offensive post directed towards another poster's ignorant comments -- your two best types of posts.

I can start making some stupid comments now if it will help you achieve a classic 6,000th post. These milestones are not to be wasted.

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

by the way, if you're going to be posting all day today -- i'd be careful to not waste post 6,000 on something useless.

As an avid watcher of the countdown to your 6,000th post, I am hoping for some sort of "state of New York Racing" comment, or some sort of backhanded, slightly offensive post directed towards another poster's ignorant comments -- your two best types of posts.

I can start making some stupid comments now if it will help you achieve a classic 6,000th post. These milestones are not to be wasted.

Most of my posts are comments back at someone in a thread thats already started. I haven't started too many threads. I also don't try and write a novel in every post. I may have a lotta posts, but I can bet you I don't have the most words typed here.

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

by the way, if you're going to be posting all day today -- i'd be careful to not waste post 6,000 on something useless.

As an avid watcher of the countdown to your 6,000th post, I am hoping for some sort of "state of New York Racing" comment, or some sort of backhanded, slightly offensive post directed towards another poster's ignorant comments -- your two best types of posts.

I can start making some stupid comments now if it will help you achieve a classic 6,000th post. These milestones are not to be wasted.

And I gotta go chief, good luck today, I have errands to run, and last minute Christmas shopping to do. Be out all day, take care.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by oracle80

I may have a lotta posts, but I can bet you I don't have the most words typed here.

I believe that completely. Enjoy your Saturday -- I'll hunt down the milestone post after the weekend!

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Yeah, 302 isn't a lot.

look at you, you little sleuth.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by Kasept

As of NOW, posters will only be able to 'edit' for 30 minutes after they first post a message...

Hopefully everyone not following this thread will find out.

How do people updating their picks in the picks section update them with the results? Just make more posts below? I really enjoy how it's done now, for what it's worth!

[Rupert Pupkin]

I strongly agree with the majority opinion here. When a horse has made a guy over $1 million, I think it is unconscionable that the guy would run the horse for a cheap claiming price. This horse has been very good to this guy. The least he can do is take care of this horse and make sure the horse has a long, healthy, and happy life.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I strongly agree with the majority opinion here. When a horse has made a guy over $1 million, I think it is unconscionable that the guy would run the horse for a cheap claiming price. This horse has been very good to this guy. The least he can do is take care of this horse and make sure the horse has a long, healthy, and happy life.

Richi,

How much would you gather it costs to take care of a retired horse on a yearly basis?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Hopefully everyone not following this thread will find out.

How do people updating their picks in the picks section update them with the results? Just make more posts below? I really enjoy how it's done now, for what it's worth!

I think the results should be posted in a new post. The original post with the picks should not be editd in any way.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Scav

Richi,

How much would you gather it costs to take care of a retired horse on a yearly basis?

It wouldn't be cheap. It would probably be about $200 a month or so. However, I'm sure you could get one of the rescue places to take the horse if you gave them a nice donation along with the horse. If a horse made me over $1 million, I could afford to make a $5,000 cash donation to a horse rescue place if they were going to take the horse.

But even if you were going to pay the $200 a month for the rest of the horse's life, I think a rich guy with a big stable that is spending $3,000 a month per horse in training, can afford to take care of a few horse for $200 each a month.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

It wouldn't be cheap. It would probably be about $200 a month or so. However, I'm sure you could get one of the rescue places to take the horse if you gave them a nice donation along with the horse. If a horse made me over $1 million, I could afford to make a $5,000 cash donation to a horse rescue place if they were going to take the horse.

But even if you were going to pay the $200 a month for the rest of the horse's life, I think a rich guy with a big stable that is spending $3,000 a month per horse in training, can afford to take care of a few horse for $200 each a month.

$200 a month wouldn't even cover rough board in my neck of the woods...$250 rough board (meaning the horse never comes inside) or minimum $500 month for a stall...and that wouldn't include farrier (if barefoot $40 a trim every 6 weeks) and vet visits (minimum care.. $150 for vaccinations, $35 x 2 teeth)

but you are right about the rescue places...usually a one time donation will cover the horse for life.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by paisjpq

$200 a month wouldn't even cover rough board in my neck of the woods...$250 rough board (meaning the horse never comes inside) or minimum $500 month for a stall...and that wouldn't include farrier (if barefoot $40 a trim every 6 weeks) and vet visits (minimum care.. $150 for vaccinations, $35 x 2 teeth)

but you are right about the rescue places...usually a one time donation will cover the horse for life.

That means I was a little low and the number is closer to $300 a month.

[Gander]

Why does a horse in training cost $3,000 grand and a retired horse only $300?

Seems like a huge difference. I understand the horse in training would require more of a lot of stuff and more vet services, etc. But 10 times the cost?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Gander

Why does a horse in training cost $3,000 grand and a retired horse only $300?

Seems like a huge difference. I understand the horse in training would require more of a lot of stuff and more vet services, etc. But 10 times the cost?

When you pay your trainer $3,000 a month, that money is paying for a ton of different things. That money is paying the salaries of the trainer, assistant trainer, foreman, groom, exercise rider, hot walker, etc. That money pays for the feed, the hay, the bedding in the stall, workman's comp, etc.

If a horse is just running out in a pasture, you have practically none of those expenses.

By the way, the $3,000 a month does not cover the vet. The vet is usually an additional $600 a month or so.

[paisjpq]

I can't keep my horse @ HOME for $300 a month...and there are no labor costs when i do the work.

[repent]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Pent,

While I generally agree that racehorses are meant to race, in this case there is some back story. Cole said he had been keeping an eye on Shake after he had been claimed away from him and that he was taking him back as 'he's been so good to me'. That intimated that he was claiming him back to retire him. Now he's entered for a nickel? Horsebleep..

The horse made Cole. He's so obviously a shadow of himself, why subject him to any more racing at this point? Having banked $1.4 million, he's earned a retirement.

The good news is that the 'drivel' here is resulting in some action being taken to see that Shake You Down is purchased privately before Wednesday and given a nice home for his post racing career.

Kasept,
if you guys want to buy the horse, thats certainly your right. thats what is great about the claiming system in this country.
then you can do whatever you want with it(shoot it in the head for all I care).

but there are 2 things that I have a problem with.
1-the property rights thing that I mentioned in the first post.
2-"earned a retirement"-what the hell does that mean anyway?
if a horse wins x amount of dollars, then he gets to stop running?
so what about the horse in Puerto Rico that wins at a 80% rate but only has earned 200K b/c purses suck?
he has to keep running while a horse in the US that is still eligible for a n2x deserves retirement b/c he ran 2nd in the Delta Jackpot and has earnings of over 500K?
and who says a horse wants to stop running anyway?
how does winning make a horse deserving of isolation and boredom?
in case no one noticed, they took his nuts away.
what the hell is Shake You Down supposed to do now that is so much more fullfilling than racing?
you think hes going to the KY Horse Park for losers to go and have their picture taken with him?
not going to happen.



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