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11-20-2006, 10:28 AM
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What was their claim price on IWD? About 75K right? 
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11-20-2006, 10:28 AM
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This thread made me think of my favorite '05 3YO filly, R Lady Joy, who has absolutely slipped into complete mediocrity this year after a couple of big efforts last year.
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11-20-2006, 10:30 AM
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just watched all 9 races on Brisbet.com replays on July 22nd. race 1- Scald off the oace and Durkin notes that Coa was in the 4 path with her. race 2- Prevention seemingly beaten, rallies widest of all of pace of 1:13 to win. 7f goes in 1:26:4 race 3- non 1 other than colts, 23:4, 47 flat, Elements from WAY BAck, wide run down the stretch. race 4- 1-2 Towering Escape wires a 4 horse field in 23:2, 47:4, 1:13:1, etc. Shes removed at least two paths from the rail while doing so although she won by about 15 lengths and it didn't matter where she came from. race 5- Fire Hero comes from WAY back on the rail in the last part of the race to win. race 6 24 flat, 48:1, 1:13:3 1:39:2 4-5 Paulinus stalks very wide in 3rd and draws away as place horse Wooden comes "down the crown of the track" to get the place. Race 7- Spite The Devil comes wide as you can get, to win. 23:2 , 46:4, 1:11:2, 1:37:1, 1:43:2 Naughty new Yorker, and Organizer both finish behind him in a very solid field of older NY breds. race 8- WLA engaes teammate from the two path with Sugar Shake outside of her.23:4 1/4. WLA puts away teammate and is now inside of Sugar Shake in 47 flat, conitinues to duel on the rail 1:11:2, 1:37:2 Pine Island has no traffic, goes 5 wide with the bias on the turn and is whipped and bashed by Javy many many times. race goes in 2:04:3 last quarter in 27:1 and Pine can't get by. Fractions are as fast as OLDER ny bred stakes horses go in a a mile and a 1/6th half an hour earlier. race 9- Stay Inside wires the field 23 flat, 47:2 1:12 while removed from the rail down the backside. Two and half wire jobs, two of those were removed from the rail. One rail winner all day and that one was from way off the pace. Outside paths definitely the most successful place to be, fastest fractions of the say pace wise are in the CCA, which at a mile and a quarter sets up a late outside run. Pine Isalnd definitely turned out to be a beter filly than WLA, no doubt. I think she was gonna be a great, especially next year. But she wasn't best this day, the "ground she lost" was actually advantageous as she swung out into the turn on the best part of the track and was chasing a horse who had previously detested the slop and who had been softened up in a between horse than over to the rail extended pace duel. WOuldn't matter what association I had with her, facts are facts and Pine had a perfect set up and ran with the bias and couldnt get up in a 27:1 quarter. She wasn't best.
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11-20-2006, 10:33 AM
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3 years training- 120 grand(including costs of everything) hes earned back about 93 grand( you can take 18,600 of that off for trainer jock 10% apiece fee). So they are stuck 38 grand on costs plus the claim price. Some miracle job huh? Ask those owners what they think of the "miracle job" with this horse. They aren't thrilled, I can assure you.
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11-20-2006, 10:34 AM
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11-20-2006, 10:35 AM
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11-20-2006, 10:35 AM
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Wide WITH the bias behind hottest pace duel all day, couldn't get up, no tyraffic trouble. She was a better horse than WLA, no doubt, with what she did afterwards, But she wasnt better that day, no excuses, perfect race set up.
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11-20-2006, 10:36 AM
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I've only made 16 inquiries today. Most unsuccessful. Oh the Miceli horse is owned by a guy whose first winner was....... you guessed it, that horse. He'd sell his wife and kids before he'd sell him. Why the **** did he have to rerally, why couldn't he have faded to third?
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11-20-2006, 10:37 AM
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has no traffic?what do you call the horse at the 1/8 pole that moves her out...not to mention the rest of the race before that..she had to lay back just to get position clear after the rest started to die..it was agood effort by wla and a smart ride..but in no way was she best..your bias info is inconclusive...
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11-20-2006, 10:40 AM
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11-20-2006, 10:42 AM
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11-20-2006, 10:44 AM
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Really? Then why all the successful wide and off the pace runs that day? And did you watch the other races? Obviously not, cause if you did you would conclude the same thing. Revisionist history don't work with horses Hooves. Pine Island turned out to be better than Bushfire also, but she wasnt better in the Goose. Same thing happened, had a pace to close on and good trip and couldnt get up. Shug himself said she finally put it together in the Bama. YOu shoulda seen him screaming down the stretch run, I watched the race next to him and he was like shaking and screaming. He loved that filly, and said ater the race in the racing office that he knew she had that kind of talent but that she finally put it together. He offered no excuses for prior losses. She was gonna be a great, and no 3Yo filly from that crop was ever gonna touch her again, that i know with total certainty. She was the best of that crop by miles. We lost a great one on BC day, and its sad.
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11-20-2006, 10:45 AM
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11-20-2006, 10:46 AM
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I still like Eddie barker in a straight boxing match.
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11-20-2006, 10:50 AM
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11-20-2006, 10:52 AM
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I think WLA was best that day.She worked very hard in the early and middle parts of that race.She got no breaks.Put them away,and opened up like the best horse does.Pine had to lose some ground,and made a good run,but the TOUGHER work was done by WLA that day.Matter of fact,I am surprised they want to bring her out here.Should just wait n' run at Belmont.Obviously likes what I would call a "good" track.Aren't there some races they would like to win at Belmont next Summer/Autumn?
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11-20-2006, 10:53 AM
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Ricky didn't have the greatest belmont meet either, and how come he only gets **** when he wins, like with a total failed claim like the one we are talking about? Its ok if he goes cold and loses, but not when he gets some horse they are stuck their nuts on to win a few claiming races. I honestly don't get it.
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11-20-2006, 10:56 AM
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Shes fresh because shes been off since August, went back into training in October. Its a restricted race series, for four year olds only and it makes sense to go after it because who else is gonna be there? I doubt Jerkens would ship Teammate, and who else is left exactly that will be a 4 year old filly? If she doesnt like the track she can always be shipped to Palm Meadows and try another route.
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