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Old 09-18-2011, 07:20 AM
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its because you are a socialist that you dont see that there are such things as state rights.

The founding fathers were hoping there wouldnt be people like you in America.
I'm a socialist and a Cleveland Indians fan. Will you murder me to make AMerican better??? Sometimes I jaywalk as well. A socialist jaywalker living in the reddest state in America concernced about the health of Josh Tomlin. The founding fathers never imagined a sot like me in existence. socialists and libertarians have zero say in america however so it's all meaningless. we's getting the texas two step, mittens, or more barry. They's all the same and you's all know it. there's a war on terror after all goin on. not nothing else much matters at all. social security is a non issue, they's all in cahoots to get rid of it any way be it texas man, mittens or barry. why even discuss it at all. murdering me would solve lots of problems I guess I think. Rick Perry...simply awesome beyond words!!! Luv him with all my heart.
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Old 09-18-2011, 08:15 AM
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something i found regarding ss, and borrowing by the fed:


Another argument made by Social Security opponents to raise fear about the national debt is how much our government has borrowed from China. They never mention how much our government has borrowed from Social Security. In fact, the government has borrowed more from the Social Security surplus than it has from any other source in the world, including China. As a result, Social Security now "owns" nearly 18 percent of the federal debt, making it the largest single holder of US debt. The government owes almost twice as much to Social Security as it does to China and Hong Kong.


now, those saying we should privatize ss, or do away with it, are incorrect. i completely disagree with that assertion. failure of the fed to properly handle our overall budget isn't an indictment of the ss program. they are not mutually inclusive. borrowing from ss doesn't mean the program is a failure, it's an indictment of the overall thought processes of our politicians in washington.
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Old 09-18-2011, 03:05 PM
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something i found regarding ss, and borrowing by the fed:

As a result, Social Security now "owns" nearly 18 percent of the federal debt, making it the largest single holder of US debt. [/b]The government owes almost twice as much to Social Security as it does to China and Hong Kong.
Wow. We are going to be in serious trouble, if we ever threaten to not pay ourselves back.

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failure of the fed to properly handle our overall budget isn't an indictment of the ss program. they are not mutually inclusive. borrowing from ss doesn't mean the program is a failure, it's an indictment of the overall thought processes of our politicians in washington.
Well said!
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