8/7 (SAR): Whitney H., Test S. (G1's); Hattie Moseley

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Lookin at Lucky will get his brains bashed in by Blame.

NT

Strong from someone who has loved Blame since last year and then does not even pick him on top.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

I don't think so, but who knows.

Lookin at Lucky? Are we talking about the same horse? I know you were one of the first to say that Blame's win in the Foster would be overrated but Lookin at Lucky, really?

You must think he's going to do a lot of improving between now and the Breeders' Cup. Blame has run a number of races that are better than Lookin at Lucky's best.

NT

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Strong from someone who has loved Blame since last year and then does not even pick him on top.

He was too "slow", right?

NT

[hockey2315]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

So I'm assuming you're quite skeptical of Champagne d'Oro's figure as well as the decision was clearly made that the track slowed down during the period between the 4th and 9th?

NT

Ya, sure.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Lookin at Lucky? Are we talking about the same horse? I know you were one of the first to say that Blame's win in the Foster would be overrated but Lookin at Lucky, really?

You must think he's going to do a lot of improving between now and the Breeders' Cup. Blame has run a number of races that are better than Lookin at Lucky's best.

NT

This is false, Blame has run 1 race that is better then Luckys best.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

He was too "slow", right?

NT

Ughh, I think someone in this thread nailed it. QR looked FLAT and Blame took advantage of it. JV should ****ing ride instead of looking back 50x.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

This is false, Blame has run 1 race that is better then Luckys best.

Can you reply to the dream thread please?

NT

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Can you reply to the dream thread please?

NT

Do you know anyone who suggested the dream thread?

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Ughh, I think someone in this thread nailed it. QR looked FLAT and Blame took advantage of it. JV should ****ing ride instead of looking back 50x.

Exactly right. Johnny V got the horse beat. The horse is FAST. The horse is the BEST. The numbers don't lie.

ha ha ha

You should get your ass over to PA and do some damage control with Mike the Eunuch, Da Hoss, CJ, and the rest of the numbers crew.

[tiggerv]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

111 Beyer for Blame (not buying it)

So 110 for QR and 108 for MM? Basically the same figures as the Met?

I am sure CJ or someone can justify it, but there is no way that Blame's performance was 8 pts better than the Foster. The track was definitely slow today considering how slow the raw velocity numbers were, but I can't believe it was that slow. Blame basically ran the same race as the Foster where he closed into a slow pace to wear down a loose leader. I figured the number would be closer to 103 which would pair Blame up with the Foster and pair QR up with the Hal's Hope. I don't buy that today was 5 lengths better.

[CSC]

Someone should put a suicide watch at paceadvantage, in particular the owner.

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Exactly right. Johnny V got the horse beat. The horse is FAST. The horse is the BEST. The numbers don't lie.

ha ha ha

You should get your ass over to PA and do some damage control with Mike the Eunuch, Da Hoss, CJ, and the rest of the numbers crew.

Admit it, you love me.

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Admit it, you love me.

I have said that exact same thing to you many times before....

[randallscott35]

Those fractions with that trip there is no reason QR should lose. He's off form or not right or more or a less a miler with an amazing track affinity for GP which allows him to run longer....Don't get me wrong his Gold Cup was good, but he gives me serious pause going longer than a mile.

[Travis Stone]

He's not the next Secretariat, but Mustket Man is pretty cool... 13-for-13 on the board in races from six furlongs to 1 1/4 miles including the Ky. Derby and the Met Mile. Not bad.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

Admit it, you love me.

What's comical about the whole thing is that TOM, just about the biggest DOOFUS on the web, actually gets it when it comes to Z and QR and you, CJ, Mike the EUNUCH, and the rest, don't. Hell, even the trip challenged Classhandicapper gets it.

But you all put a lot of effort into it, nonetheless. Keep up the good work.

[the_fat_man]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

He's not the next Secretariat, but Mustket Man is pretty cool... 13-for-13 on the board in races from six furlongs to 1 1/4 miles including the Ky. Derby and the Met Mile is pretty cool.

Come on, Travis. He's a PLUG.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

Those fractions with that trip there is no reason QR should lose. He's off form or not right or more or a less a miler with an amazing track affinity for GP which allows him to run longer....Don't get me wrong his Gold Cup was good, but he gives me serious pause going longer than a mile.

When Blame drew alongside Quality Road he did dig in, which counts for something. I don't think he's a router, but more a miler like you said. ntamm1215 said to me something I think is probably spot-on in that they should just let him use his raw speed and not get cute up top... it's almost as if rating him mutes his ability a bit.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by the_fat_man

Come on, Travis. He's a PLUG.

Who isn't a plug in the game today though?

[randallscott35]

Originally Posted by Travis Stone

He's not the next Secretariat, but Mustket Man is pretty cool... 13-for-13 on the board in races from six furlongs to 1 1/4 miles including the Ky. Derby and the Met Mile. Not bad.

Completely agree.