Tips/Thoughts on Breeders' Cup tickets this year?

[2Hot4TV]

Originally Posted by -BT-

awesome, gives me almost all day to piss away my bankroll @ belmont and keenland until the first BC races..... nice

-bt-

LOL

[Slewbopper]

The Saturday card will start at 1:10 p.m. Eastern with the Marathon, followed by the Turf Sprint, 1:50; Dirt Mile, 2:30; Mile, 3:15; Juvenile, 3:55; Juvenile Turf, 4:35; Sprint, 5:15; Turf, 6:00; and Classic, 6:45. Two races, the Damascus Stakes and the Oak Tree Derby, will follow the Classic.


If the idiots that produce this circus had half a brain, they would run the nine races in 3 1/2 hours. There is less than 20 minutes of actual action in 6 hours. Ever wonder why nobody other than us watches the Breeders Cup?

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by Slewbopper

The Saturday card will start at 1:10 p.m. Eastern with the Marathon, followed by the Turf Sprint, 1:50; Dirt Mile, 2:30; Mile, 3:15; Juvenile, 3:55; Juvenile Turf, 4:35; Sprint, 5:15; Turf, 6:00; and Classic, 6:45. Two races, the Damascus Stakes and the Oak Tree Derby, will follow the Classic.


If the idiots that produce this circus had half a brain, they would run the nine races in 3 1/2 hours. There is less than 20 minutes of actual action in 6 hours. Ever wonder why nobody other than us watches the Breeders Cup?

Seems like they could move it along a little quicker. It does provide good handicapping/drinking time in between races.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

Seems like they could move it along a little quicker. It does provide good handicapping/drinking time in between races.

As well as driving down to the OTB to see Yakk .....did you know that it will be the last day at the Herkimer branch also, closing it's doors for good after the last race.

[fpsoxfan]

Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff

As well as driving down to the OTB to see Yakk .....did you know that it will be the last day at the Herkimer branch also, closing it's doors for good after the last race.

Yeah..I heard that. Believe me, They would do the same for FP if they could get a bar to have an EZ Bet. With Herkimer leaving, maybe we will be spared for awhile.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by Slewbopper

The Saturday card will start at 1:10 p.m. Eastern with the Marathon, followed by the Turf Sprint, 1:50; Dirt Mile, 2:30; Mile, 3:15; Juvenile, 3:55; Juvenile Turf, 4:35; Sprint, 5:15; Turf, 6:00; and Classic, 6:45. Two races, the Damascus Stakes and the Oak Tree Derby, will follow the Classic.


If the idiots that produce this circus had half a brain, they would run the nine races in 3 1/2 hours. There is less than 20 minutes of actual action in 6 hours. Ever wonder why nobody other than us watches the Breeders Cup?

so it's lke baseball

[Scav]

Originally Posted by Kasept

2008 BREEDERS' CUP WORLD CHAMPIONSHIPS
(All Eastern Time)

Championship Friday October 24

Santa Anita Allowance Race 1 2:05 p.m.
Santa Anita Allowance Race 2 2:35 p.m.
$1 million Sentient Flight Group Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Sprint 3 3:35 p.m.
$1 million Grey Goose Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies Turf 4 4:15 p.m.
$2 million Bessemer Trust Breeders' Cup Juvenile Fillies (gr. I) 5 4:55 p.m.
$2 million Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Filly and Mare Turf (gr. I) 6 5:35 p.m.
$2 million Breeders' Cup Ladies' Classic (gr. I) 7 6:15 p.m.
Las Palmas Handicap (gr. II) 8 6:55 p.m.
Santa Anita Race Allowance Race 9 7:30 p.m.
Santa Anita Race Allowance Race 10 8:05 p.m.

Championship Saturday October 25

$500,000 Breeders' Cup Marathon 1 1:10 p.m.
$1 million Breeders' Cup Turf Sprint 2 1:50 p.m.
$1 million TVG Breeders' Cup Dirt Mile 3 2:30 p.m.
$2 million Breeders' Cup Mile (gr. I) 4 3:15 p.m.
$2 million Bessemer Trust Breeders' Cup Juvenile (gr. I) 5 3:55 p.m.
$1 million Grey Goose Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf 6 4:35 p.m.
$2 million Sentient Flight Group Breeders' Cup Sprint (gr. 1) 7 5:15 p.m.
$3 million Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Turf (gr. I) 8 6:00 p.m.
$5 million Breeders' Cup Classic (gr. I) 9 6:45 p.m.
Damascus Stakes 10 7:20 p.m.
Oak Tree Derby (gr. II) 11 7:55 p.m.

Assuming these are the six in the P6, and not the two races after the classic??

$2 million Breeders' Cup Mile (gr. I) 4 3:15 p.m.
$2 million Bessemer Trust Breeders' Cup Juvenile (gr. I) 5 3:55 p.m.
$1 million Grey Goose Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf 6 4:35 p.m.
$2 million Sentient Flight Group Breeders' Cup Sprint (gr. 1) 7 5:15 p.m.
$3 million Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Turf (gr. I) 8 6:00 p.m.
$5 million Breeders' Cup Classic (gr. I) 9 6:45 p.m.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Scav

Assuming these are the six in the P6, and not the two races after the classic??

$2 million Breeders' Cup Mile (gr. I) 4 3:15 p.m.
$2 million Bessemer Trust Breeders' Cup Juvenile (gr. I) 5 3:55 p.m.
$1 million Grey Goose Breeders' Cup Juvenile Turf 6 4:35 p.m.
$2 million Sentient Flight Group Breeders' Cup Sprint (gr. 1) 7 5:15 p.m.
$3 million Emirates Airline Breeders' Cup Turf (gr. I) 8 6:00 p.m.
$5 million Breeders' Cup Classic (gr. I) 9 6:45 p.m.

I thought someone posted a wagering menu a couple weeks ago. I can't find it now.

*edit* Found it, Sniper's thread.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...and-wager-menu

[Kasept]

[the_fat_man]

Can I safely assume that the cards will be streamed online (as usual) on the CALRACING site?

[-BT-]

Originally Posted by Kasept

rolling pk3's on friday, awesome i'm all for that

but why do you they have back to back pk4's both ending with non- BC races? I would love to hear someones theory behind this one

-bt-

[Kasept]

Awesome Gem: Mile (2)
Black Magic Mama: Juvenile Fillies (1)
Casino Drive: Classic (1)
Coronet of a Baron: Juvenile Turf (2)
Dave ’s Revenge: Juvenile Fillies (2)
Dream Empress: Juvenile Fillies (1)
Elusive Bluff: Juvenile (1)
Emmy Darling: Juvenile Fillies Turf (1)
Evita Argentina: Juvenile Fillies (1)
Fairbanks: Classic (2)
First Defence: Sprint (1)
Gallant Son: Juvenile (1)
Goldikova: Mile (1)
Indian Blessing: Filly & Mare Sprint (1)
Lewis Michael: Dirt Mile (1)
Lord Admiral: Dirt Mile (2)
Mast Track: Dirt Mile (2)
Mine That Bird: Juvenile (1)
Precious Kitten: Mile (1)
Pyro: Dirt Mile (2)
Raven ’s Pass: Classic (1)
Rebellion: Dirt Mile (1)
Renda: Juvenile Fillies Turf (1)
Saucey Evening: Juvenile Fillies Turf (1)
Slew ’s Tizzy: Dirt Mile (2)
Spring House: Turf (1)
Ventura: Filly & Mare Sprint (1)
Well Armed: Dirt Mile (1)

[Scav]

I am curious, do you consider all these cross entries to be insane and ridiculous?

Makes it real hard for me to follow right now, unlike years past where were were a couple and most of them were for turf related.

Now that I think about it, you think it is because of the synethic?

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by Scav

I am curious, do you consider all these cross entries to be insane and ridiculous?

Makes it real hard for me to follow right now, unlike years past where were were a couple and most of them were for turf related.

Now that I think about it, you think it is because of the synethic?

17 of the 26 are Turf to Synthetic or vice-versa..Doubt you would see that at CD

[Kasept]

11 come from the boy/girl Juvy-Juvy Turf races as well.. That's a big part of it.

And Dirt Mile produced 9 more..

Those reperesent 20 of the 30 X-entries.

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Kasept

11 come from the boy/girl Juvy-Juvy Turf races as well.. That's a big part of it.

And Dirt Mile produced 9 more..

Those reperesent 20 of the 30 X-entries.

19 X-entries in 11 races last year.

[Kasept]

Awesome Gem: Mile (2)
Black Magic Mama: Juvenile Fillies (1)
Casino Drive: Classic (1)
Coronet of a Baron: Juvenile Turf (2)
Dave ’s Revenge: Juvenile Fillies (2)
Dream Empress: Juvenile Fillies (1)
Elusive Bluff: Juvenile (1)
Emmy Darling: Juvenile Fillies Turf (1)
Evita Argentina: Juvenile Fillies (1)
Fairbanks: Classic (2)
First Defence: Sprint (1)
Gallant Son: Juvenile (1)
Goldikova: Mile (1)
Indian Blessing: Filly & Mare Sprint (1)
Lewis Michael: Dirt Mile (1)
Lord Admiral: Dirt Mile (2)
Mast Track: Dirt Mile (2)
Mine That Bird: Juvenile (1)
Precious Kitten: Mile (1)
Pyro: Dirt Mile (2)
Raven ’s Pass: Classic (1)
Rebellion: Dirt Mile (1)
Renda: Juvenile Fillies Turf (1)
Saucey Evening: Juvenile Fillies Turf (1)
Slew ’s Tizzy: Dirt Mile (2)
Spring House: Turf (1)
Ventura: Filly & Mare Sprint (1)
Well Armed: Dirt Mile (1)

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Raven ’s Pass: Classic (1)

LUV IT. Stay outta my mile.

[Bobby Fischer]

Duke of Marmalade, Henrythenavigator, Raven’s Pass


I KNOW some of you guys are familiar with these horses, or have an opinion on them regarding the classic?

Lets talk about the 3 invaders in the BC.

[Bobby Fischer]

I think the invaders deserve as much respect and thorough handicapping as is given foreign shippers into races like BC Turf and Turf Mile.

I have some rough ideas about these guys' correct me, debate, offer your own etc...

Duke of Marmalade – might have a little tactical speed, has more experience at distances a little longer than a mile. Seems consistent. Maybe not a top class 12 furlong Turf Horse - but pretty good, and very tough intermediate distances, strong looking solid animal

Henrythenavigator – did he peak around the 2,000 guineas? nice looking horse, game in the stretch, likes a firm ground, Seems very close to Raven's Pass

Raven’s Pass – maybe a slightly later developer, just now reaching a peak? Seemed that riding tactics played a role in duel with HTN? = wanted to get first run..