Asmussen: Lone Star positive

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I believe that does happen sometimes. If a trainer with a good reputation(good in terms of honesty) has a positive and he has a good explanation as to how it happened, the stewards and commission may not come down hard on him. I think the stewards and commissions are usually willing to consider extenuating circumstances when making their decisions on what type of penalty to administer.

I had an overage on a legal therapuetic med last summer. We provided our records that showed the med was stopped 48 hourse before the suggested cutoff time. Funny thing was they were impressed with our recordkeeping and never mentioned the vets records.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I had an overage on a legal therapuetic med last summer. We provided our records that showed the med was stopped 48 hourse before the suggested cutoff time. Funny thing was they were impressed with our recordkeeping and never mentioned the vets records.

Did they throw the book at you? You know your record book..I suggest a little enevelope with benny's in it works everytime..

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no.

my point is that i find it absolutely ridiculous that dutrow is being treated as a first time offender, and is being given a first offender suspension in ky. if we had a nat'l body, he'd be treated as the repeat offender he is.

jeremy rose won't be able to ride anywhere while serving the six month suspension given him in delaware. when asmussen was serving his six month suspension last winter and spring, he wasn't allowed to train anywhere in the country-so why aren't drug violations 'carried over' from one jurisdiction to the next, such as in dutrows case?

if he's had past class 2 violations, this should count as #8 for instance, not as a first offense since it's his first in kentucky. it's far from his first violation.

Clenbuterol is a Class III drug rather than a Class II. So a clenbuterol positive is not considered nearly as serious as a lidocaine or mepivicaine positive.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Did they throw the book at you? You know your record book..I suggest a little enevelope with benny's in it works everytime..

No they told me I was getting a $250 fine and when the ruling came down it was $500.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Clenbuterol is a Class III drug rather than a Class II. So a clenbuterol positive is not considered nearly as serious as a lidocaine or mepivicaine positive.

i was using that as an example--this clenbuterol isn't his first offense with that drug-not sure if it's his first offense with a class three...my only contention is with them charging him with a first offense, since it's not his first.

[Rupert Pupkin]

I heard that Vladimir just got another positive out here in California. I'm not sure what it was for. We will find out soon enough. I'm sure you are all shocked. He hasn't had too many. LOL.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

I heard that Vladimir just got another positive out here in California. I'm not sure what it was for. We will find out soon enough. I'm sure you are all shocked. He hasn't had too many. LOL.

no doubt explains why some refer to his as vladimir syringe...

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Danzig

no doubt explains why some refer to his as vladimir syringe...

Yes, that is what many people call him out here.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

The filly Asmussen got the positive test with finished last beaten 18+ lengths over the weekend in a small stake at Sun Rey Park (whereever that is!)

I assume any last ditch efforts to fix her problems will be no more - and she will be retired as a broodmare.

She's by Forestry out of a multiple Graded Stakes winning mare - she worked an 1/8th in 10 flat at a 2yo sale - and clearly had talent and pedigree to go along with real soundness issues.

It looks like they tried to piece her together and get her some soft blacktype to round out her broodmare resume ... instead all they got was a bad drug test out of the deal.

[sumitas]

Her family is not very inspiring. It needs a whole lot more than March Magic, imo, to make it very desireable. But as you say drugs, they tried to give her catalogue page some black type and instead got an unsound filly pushed to or beyond her max at a 2 yr old in training sale.

[parsixfarms]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

The filly Asmussen got the positive test with finished last beaten 18+ lengths over the weekend in a small stake at Sun Rey Park (whereever that is!)

I assume any last ditch efforts to fix her problems will be no more - and she will be retired as a broodmare.

She's by Forestry out of a multiple Graded Stakes winning mare - she worked an 1/8th in 10 flat at a 2yo sale - and clearly had talent and pedigree to go along with real soundness issues.

It looks like they tried to piece her together and get her some soft blacktype to round out her broodmare resume ... instead all they got was a bad drug test out of the deal.

Interesting point. When people suggest that breeders might want to seek change in the drug rules of the sport, consider that Asmussen has been retained to train horses in the past year for Gainesway, Vinery, Jess Jackson (Stonestreet) and Farish (Lane's End).

[Oaklawnfan]

Does anyone want to bid on my Steve A. bobblehead?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

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