3/8 (FG): LA Derby Day (6 Stakes)

[Scav]

I can tell you this, if you find the winner of the turf race (Race 7), you will be able to get 35/1 or 45/1 on the Pk4, with Pyro (3/5), Indian Blessing (2/5) and Grasshopper (1/1). Good value as long as Daytona loses. How I would do it

Grasshopper($4.80)/Daytona($6.40)/Indian Blessing($3.40)/Pyro($3.80) paid $45 per $1 last time

If you find the winner and you can turn a bunch of chalk 'locks' into 45/1, not bad

[blackthroatedwind]

Why are you conceding the race to Grasshopper? I'm not saying he isn't the likeliest winner but what if he doesn't get the same perfect trip he got last time?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

and how will you beat daytona . solis is not the answer.......

[blackthroatedwind]

Daytona looks too good to be true.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

tha tagg runner may do it ..

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead

tha tagg runner may do it ..

He or Proudinsky are the logical other horses. Not a very compelling field that's for sure.

[jcs11204]

buffalo man... pyro is not a lock.
grasshopper and indian blessing are

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

mag graduate ..2nd off the layoff first blinks..take it to the bank..and prado..

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

It's going to take all the Pletcher magic in the world to get him home my friend, IMO.

you can count on robbie fng up one ride..maybe two.. and who knows if allday wil be in town..

I keep trying to convince myself that Encaustic will upset.

[Scav]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Why are you conceding the race to Grasshopper? I'm not saying he isn't the likeliest winner but what if he doesn't get the same perfect trip he got last time?

Re: Grasshopper, Because I think he will improve 2nd off the layoff so I am expecting a better performance, and he is essentially facing the same horses, except Magna, who won't win.

Re: Daytona, what do you mean too good to be true, and Hooves, Solis will single-handily get this horse beat. Look at what he did when Solis DID ride him, completely different running style and horse. The horse I like in this race is Proudinsky. I don't think 1 mile is his game and he should appreciate the return to 9 furlongs, plus the addition of Gomez. Plus, do you really think they are going to let Daytona go again, I really think SOMEONE is going to go with him, especially because Solis will try and put a hammer lock on him...

And for the record, I am not hammering Solis, he has improved dramatically recently and has been riding well, I just don't think his style fits this horse.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

It's going to take all the Pletcher magic in the world to get him home my friend, IMO.

In case you haven't noticed Todd has seem to have lost his magic wand.

[Pedigree Ann]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

He - like the great Dynever - vanished after his Dubai race. They claimed both he and his undefeated at the time Group 1 stablemate Gold For Sale were both drugged in that race.

However, that quote came from Ian Jory - who trained both SB and GFS - so it should be taken with a grain of salt.

Jory had lab tests done on the horses and the results came back positive, I forget for what tranquilizer. Tests were shown to the press and all. But since the tests weren't ordered by the officials of the track in Dubai, no official action could be taken, or so the track authorities said. I doubt they cared to do much, since the winner was the Sheikh's horse and an investigation would have cast doubt on his accomplishment.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Scav

Daytona will be 7/5 or 6/5 in this race. Proudinsky should take some cash

I am definitely not a ML guy but i will give it a shot

1: Buffalo Man - 10/1
2: Yate's Black Cat - 15/1
3: Brilliant - 6/1
4: Jazz Quest - 10/1
5: Elusive Fort - 15/1
6: French Beret - 20/1
7: Fracas - 12/1
8: Proudinsky - 4/1
9: Twilight Meteor - 12/1
10: Daytona - 7/5

If I can get 12/1 on Fracas.. Shields are down Scotty, FIIIRE.. I wouldn't count Brilliant out either. Horse is a big-timer when he's right. Daytona's imposing, but not unbeatable. I think he's the most likely of the four favorites to lose, albeit not by much.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

He or Proudinsky are the logical other horses. Not a very compelling field that's for sure.

that's my pick...

[miraja2]

What do you guys think the odds will be on Circular Quay in the NOH come post time?

I hope I don't get suckered into betting on him because the odds seem favorable....but I probably will.

I frequently seem to find reasons to play this horse when no person in their right mind would do so.

[swedejxn]

UP to 2 inches of rain expected thursday night and showery and gray friday..
expect main track to be ok ... but turf could be squishy...

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by miraja2

What do you guys think the odds will be on Circular Quay in the NOH come post time?

I hope I don't get suckered into betting on him because the odds seem favorable....but I probably will.

I frequently seem to find reasons to play this horse when no person in their right mind would do so.

Maybe I'll be way off, but with the money Grasshopper should take, with the way Silver Lord has been performing on the track, Magna Graduate and Brass Hat will take some cash -- I would (or should, I should say) think you'll get double digits. If I were making a line, I'd probably end up pegging him around, what, maybe 12/1?

Er, EDIT: I just made one, and came up with 9-1. That's just me though.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by swedejxn

UP to 2 inches of rain expected thursday night and showery and gray friday..
expect main track to be ok ... but turf could be squishy...

and i said who my pick was....
but turf surface is so important. might be better to wait til race day to see how the track is faring, and who is best suited to the ground.

[wac]

I think if there is some give in the T Brilliant may be playable here. I worry about coming bck from the layoff but for some odd reason i think that the horse likes some give in the T I just dont know how the trainer does with horses off the layoff.