Les Miles

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3150159

Miles' contract extension at LSU reportedly still contains a $1.25 million buyout he must pay if he leaves Baton Rouge for Ann Arbor.



I'm enjoying the CoachSpeak.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3150159

Miles' contract extension at LSU reportedly still contains a $1.25 million buyout he must pay if he leaves Baton Rouge for Ann Arbor.



I'm enjoying the CoachSpeak.

Great stuff ain't it?

And he imitates Bo very,very well.



I think it's a secret message.

[Danzig]

a non issue.

however, just read that petrino has resigned from the falcons, and is going to arkansas.

[Mortimer]

Issue.

It is an issue. If it was a non-issue then why not have the buyout removed from the extension?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

It is an issue. If it was a non-issue then why not have the buyout removed from the extension?

espn seems to be stooping to the level of the national enquirer. and i'd imagine that until michigan chooses another coach, this b.s. will continue.

and as for the extension...i guess that's between miles and lsu. he agreed to it, they asked for it. no doubt everyone has their reasons. les says he wants to stay for a long time, maybe ten years from now he'll want to leave. who knows?

hell, petrino signed for five, and didn't even finish one.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by Danzig

a non issue.

however, just read that petrino has resigned from the falcons, and is going to arkansas.

Petrino is a joke. Every year he would act like he was going to another school just so UofL would up his salary. He has to be one of the most unethical coaches there ever was when it comes to this kind of stuff. I am sure he will do the same to Arkansas as he did UofL and Atlanta.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by whodey17

Petrino is a joke. Every year he would act like he was going to another school just so UofL would up his salary. He has to be one of the most unethical coaches there ever was when it comes to this kind of stuff. I am sure he will do the same to Arkansas as he did UofL and Atlanta.

he's the guy who tried to get the auburn job when tuberville was on the hot seat--that sneaky behind the scenes meeting. he also wanted the lsu job a couple years ago. he wants in the sec bad. well, they say be careful what you wish for.....i don't see him lasting long at arkansas, who is stupid for going after someone who has already shown his true colors. more than once.

[whodey17]

Originally Posted by Danzig

he's the guy who tried to get the auburn job when tuberville was on the hot seat--that sneaky behind the scenes meeting. he also wanted the lsu job a couple years ago. he wants in the sec bad. well, they say be careful what you wish for.....i don't see him lasting long at arkansas, who is stupid for going after someone who has already shown his true colors. more than once.

To this day I believe ne never intended on staying at Atlanta for more than two years. I feel the only reason he went down there was to be in the middle of SEC country. He will get his balls beat in at Arkansas.

[Mortimer]

Uh...Herbstreit said his "contact" was someone directly involved in the negotiations with Miles and Michigan. It's very obvious they want each other...if you know the background. That's why his contract exclusively mentioned Michigan as the team that would cost Miles 1.5 mill.

So Miles denies it all..as they always do....and all of a sudden there's a contract extension. It played well due to the upcoming SEC champ. game and possible ( and now for sure) nc game.

And Miles was just caught talking to Michigan over the phone a few days ago...again...about everything except he being hc at Michigan...supposedly.

So it all kinda makes one think this isn't over until early January. There's a faction at Michigan that doesn't want Miles and maybe these are where "contacts" come into play.

Miles is their no. 1 guy, though. I still think he goes there...but we'll see.

It sure cheats the players .

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Uh...Herbstreit said his "contact" was someone directly involved in the negotiations with Miles and Michigan. It's very obvious they want each other...if you know the background. That's why his contract exclusively mentioned Michigan as the team that would cost Miles 1.5 mill.

So Miles denies it all..as they always do....and all of a sudden there's a contract extension. It played well due to the upcoming SEC champ. game and possible ( and now for sure) nc game.

And Miles was just caught talking to Michigan over the phone a few days ago...again...about everything except he being hc at Michigan...supposedly.

So it all kinda makes one think this isn't over until early January. There's a faction at Michigan that doesn't want Miles and maybe these are where "contacts" come into play.

Miles is their no. 1 guy, though. I still think he goes there...but we'll see.

It sure cheats the players .

you did see the article above by the espn ombudsman, right? in which herbstreit is said to have spoken to one anonymous,uncorroborated source who had nothing to do with any negotiating that may have occurred.

as for miles, he says that he is not in the running for the michigan job, having just signed an extension (would he have signed that last week, if he planned on ditching in a few weeks?)--and says he talked to michigan about their coaching search, presumably others in the running, not himself. one of his assistants past or present?
sure is a lot of rampant speculation based on a phone conversation.
hell, i talked to my former boss at the job i just left the other day, i have no plans to return.

[horseofcourse]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Uh...Herbstreit said his "contact" was someone directly involved in the negotiations with Miles and Michigan. It's very obvious they want each other...if you know the background. That's why his contract exclusively mentioned Michigan as the team that would cost Miles 1.5 mill.

So Miles denies it all..as they always do....and all of a sudden there's a contract extension. It played well due to the upcoming SEC champ. game and possible ( and now for sure) nc game.

And Miles was just caught talking to Michigan over the phone a few days ago...again...about everything except he being hc at Michigan...supposedly.

So it all kinda makes one think this isn't over until early January. There's a faction at Michigan that doesn't want Miles and maybe these are where "contacts" come into play.

Miles is their no. 1 guy, though. I still think he goes there...but we'll see.

It sure cheats the players .

I'll be very surprised too if Miles isn't at Michigan next year. He has a team in the hunt for a national championship. He is simply doing all the right things to keep that going as you said. The contract...the talk...the everything. I can't imagine why on earth he would leave the Michigan buyout in the contract if he is all about LSU?? If Michigan doesn't have a coach hired before the championship game I think the writing is on the wall.

Unless I'm wrong of course.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by horseofcourse

I'll be very surprised too if Miles isn't at Michigan next year. He has a team in the hunt for a national championship. He is simply doing all the right things to keep that going as you said. The contract...the talk...the everything. I can't imagine why on earth he would leave the Michigan buyout in the contract if he is all about LSU?? If Michigan doesn't have a coach hired before the championship game I think the writing is on the wall.

Unless I'm wrong of course.

That was good stuff...of course.He may not go there...but that will be a shock to me if he doesn't.



I should mention Dannie refuses to attend MOTO class here anymore so the words kind of are wasted now.

[Danzig]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3155414

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3155414

...uh....I thought you were ----"out"...................but anyways......



...so you don't think all he was doing was advising Michigan on their next hc candidates?.....

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=3155414

The meeting was confirmed to ESPN's Joe Schad on Friday afternoon by a source close to the situation.


And NOW you buy THIS!!!!?






















thud

[Mortimer]

See what you think of this noise:



Lions legend, ESPN analyst Chris Spielman discuss the Michigan coaching search
December 11, 2007

ESPN color commentator Chris Spielman, best known for his years as the Lions middle linebacker, talked with WXYT-FM (97.1) today about the U-M football coaching search.

Do you believe (Les Miles), or do you still think this is possible?

Well, I want to believe him, but his actions tell me different, correct? I mean, if he was completely out of it, why would he have a conversation with the president and the athletic director?



I think they have enough good people at Michigan and enough contacts around this country, that you don’t go to a guy, that you don’t go to a guy, that’s rumored to be your No. 1 contact. I mean, I just don’t know what to believe. Do you find that hard to believe? I do. I hate saying it, but don’t tell me that. You’re Michigan. You have access to every coach in the country to get advice on your search and you’re telling me that you don’t have enough good people in your system and in college football that you can’t get advice, that you have to get advice from Les Miles? Come on.

How does LSU and Michigan keep this thing under wraps for three weeks when you’ve got (media) trying to unearth this story?

This is just my observation from a far… Here’s the dilemma that Les Miles has: Les Miles has invested in his coaching staff and the LSU football program and in his kids, emotionally. He is not invested in Louisiana State University or the state of Louisiana. He is invested in Michigan, the state, and Michigan, the school, and the people. I understand that. I’m at Ohio State, I’m a proud alum. And, after experiencing what it was to be a Buckeye on the football field and after being part of this university, in helping raise over four and a half million dollars for cancer research, this university is something that lives inside of me. Michigan is a university that lives in Les Miles. Make no mistake about his passion. Understand his passion. His heart is with Michigan. What I would do, if this is the case, if I’m Les, I’d say, “LSU, I’m going to give you everything that’s in my power. Every fiber of my being is gonna go out to try to win a national championship. I’m a professional coach. You have to trust me that I will get it done. After that, if I want to be completely transparent and honest with you, as witness when I cried about the Michigan job at an LSU press conference, is that I still talked to the president and the athletic director at Michigan. I can’t lie to you. My heart is in Michigan. And you have the right to tell me to go pack salt, and go to Michigan right now, or you have to trust me, and I can go, and win you a national championship.” Wouldn’t that be refreshing?

It just seems like that since Kirk Herbstreit came out on that Saturday with that information, that the body is still moving.

I don’t want to be a conspiracy theorist here, but… What if Les said to Michigan wanted another coach. That’s basically what he said, right? Did he say I’m coach LSU for the year 2008… football season and beyond?

His quote was, “I will be the coach at LSU next season.”

Well, when that? Next season? Well, OK, I don’t know if he said next season. I don’t know. But you know what, if Michigan, I think Michigan should respond to his wishes and not have the president and athletic director call him and talk to him directly. And, I do think,… people in the position of power think that you’re an idiot, I’m an idiot, to think, “well, we’re just consulting him to see who he thinks is the best guy for Michigan.” Come on, man.

You can’t believe anything these guys say until the ink is dry on a contract with an unbearable buyout, or until you make the guy the highest paid coach, or until the game is played.

And I agree. I think most people that follow sports with a passion, and especially college football, like we do, we understand that. We seen it too many times. There are too many forces at work. Whether it be money, whether it be dream job… I mean, I could understand if he’s being ripped apart, emotionally. I really can. Because I know he loves his kids. And I know he’s given his heart and soul to LSU, but where is his heart? His heart is in Michigan. Now, he may very well end up being the coach at LSU. Only he’s gonna make that decision. Cause if he picks up the phone right now and tells Michigan, “I’m coming,” then he’s there. And what’s Michigan done? How proactive have they been? Did they have a formal meeting with Greg Schiano? And you still have Ron English and Mike DeBord as their leading candidates? Come on, man, you know those guys don’t have a shot. Right?

[Mortimer]

Herbstreit himself said it wasn't just a "source"..that's how he put it. He said it was from someone directly involved in the negotiations. I heard him say that.


Read what Speilman says if you cannot follow the bouncing ball.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Herbstreit himself said it wasn't just a "source"..that's how he put it. He said it was from someone directly involved in the negotiations. I heard him say that.


Read what Speilman says if you cannot follow the bouncing ball.

"But early that Saturday, on ESPN and ESPNEWS and later ESPN.com, the word was out: "Sources have told ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit that, barring any unforeseen circumstances, Michigan will announce early next week it has reached an agreement with LSU coach Les Miles to be its next head football coach." As Herbstreit's later remarks would make clear, that information came not from "sources," but from a single, anonymous, uncorroborated source." sourceS?? that's plural. herbstreit made it sound as tho more than one person gave him this info, which later turned out to be untrue. so what else did he concoct?
les miles came out this evening and said AGAIN, he is NOT in the running for the job. this is ridiculous.
i hope michigan hurries up and finds someone, as this is becoming tedious.


"I'm not a candidate for that job and I will not be a candidate for the job," Miles said. "I was only assisting them in their search for a coach. I have a great job at a wonderful place, a place that my family calls home. It's time that Michigan goes on with their search for a football coach. I'll say it again, I'm going to be the coach at LSU next season."--from earlier this evening.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Danzig

"But early that Saturday, on ESPN and ESPNEWS and later ESPN.com, the word was out: "Sources have told ESPN's Kirk Herbstreit that, barring any unforeseen circumstances, Michigan will announce early next week it has reached an agreement with LSU coach Les Miles to be its next head football coach." As Herbstreit's later remarks would make clear, that information came not from "sources," but from a single, anonymous, uncorroborated source." sourceS?? that's plural. herbstreit made it sound as tho more than one person gave him this info, which later turned out to be untrue. so what else did he concoct?
les miles came out this evening and said AGAIN, he is NOT in the running for the job. this is ridiculous.
i hope michigan hurries up and finds someone, as this is becoming tedious.


"I'm not a candidate for that job and I will not be a candidate for the job," Miles said. "I was only assisting them in their search for a coach. I have a great job at a wonderful place, a place that my family calls home. It's time that Michigan goes on with their search for a football coach. I'll say it again, I'm going to be the coach at LSU next season."--from earlier this evening.

I and millions of other people heard him say it was from someone directly involved in the contract negotiations.

If you want to hang him on an " 's "...go right ahead.


If you truly have been around in the real world long enough...for you to keep throwing up all the plausible denials from Miles and all the lock tight commitments and can't see what's going on you're a lot more naive than I would have thought ,Dannie.

Speilman made it very clear.

Very,very clear.

If you believe the top people at Michigan are still talking to their number one candidate after he rejected their approaches -----to talk to him about search advice?........................................... .do I have to say it?