NBA Playoffs

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

This years Lakers is the worst championship team I have seen in my lifetime. I've never seen a team win three series in a row that they should have lost and played like **** and still won a championship cause their opponents played shittier. It is like watching Big Brown win the Preakness, you knew you were watching dogshit but people still wanted to praise it.

Celtics last year were not very impressive either imo.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Celtics last year were not very impressive either imo.

Really? Garnett and Pierce are hall of fame players and perenial all everything. Ray Allen, although not as good, has had a wonderful career and is still a good player. They had a great mix of young and old and played outstanding defense.

Why weren't they impressive?

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Really? Garnett and Pierce are hall of fame players and perenial all everything. Ray Allen, although not as good, has had a wonderful career and is still a good player. They had a great mix of young and old and played outstanding defense.

Why weren't they impressive?

I'm going to guess he's going to say it's because of how Atlanta took them to seven games. That was a shock but after that, they beat a good Cleveland team that had been to the finals the year before and got progressively better in the next round against Detroit and finally against the Lakers. The difference between this Laker team and that Celtic team is that you never got the feeling that the Celtics were fortunate to win games they should have lost. It's sort of like the 1988 Lakers who were extended to seven against Utah in the conference semifinals and also by Dallas in the conference finals but you never got the feeling that they were lucking up to win. Just a good team winning a tight series.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

I'm going to guess he's going to say it's because of how Atlanta took them to seven games. That was a shock but after that, they beat a good Cleveland team that had been to the finals the year before and got progressively better in the next round against Detroit and finally against the Lakers. The difference between this Laker team and that Celtic team is that you never got the feeling that the Celtics were fortunate to win games they should have lost. It's sort of like the 1988 Lakers who were extended to seven against Utah in the conference semifinals and also by Dallas in the conference finals but you never got the feeling that they were lucking up to win. Just a good team winning a tight series.

i agree with this and i actually agree with the argument that this Laker team is probably the worst i have seen besides the 07 spurs team which was really bad. I think this team beats that 07 spurs team hands down.

[dalakhani]

On the great Delonte West:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...minated-090531

"Delonte West, who played well on Saturday, is ideally a first guard off the bench, a tough, skilled player who can man both guard spots. But at just 6-foot-3, he's too small to start at shooting guard, especially next to the 6-1 Williams"

Interesting. Broussard, a respected NBA columnist, views the great delonte west as too small to be a starting 2 guard even for a team that Jerry West said would be a lottery team without Lebron.

LOL. I guess he doesnt know what he is talking about either.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

On the great Delonte West:

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playof...minated-090531

"Delonte West, who played well on Saturday, is ideally a first guard off the bench, a tough, skilled player who can man both guard spots. But at just 6-foot-3, he's too small to start at shooting guard, especially next to the 6-1 Williams"

Interesting. Broussard, a respected NBA columnist, views the great delonte west as too small to be a starting 2 guard even for a team that Jerry West said would be a lottery team without Lebron.

LOL. I guess he doesnt know what he is talking about either.

Yeah this is useful. West had a real tough time guarding Rip Hamilton, Joe Johnson and Turkoglu, all who are much taller than him. Broussard is hardly an expert on anything and he says a lot of stupid stuff. yeah a guy who played 45 minutes a game in the playoffs should be coming off the bench. Cleveland's problem isnt its guards height, it is its lack of a long swing defender outside of Lebron.

[Cannon Shell]

"In not surprised by his success this season because a lot of players prevail in different systems. A guy might not be the same player in another coach's scheme. It's all about the way you're used. He's found a home in Cleveland, and I credit Mike Brown for using Delonte's talent to the best of his ability.

"They didn't utilize him the right way in Seattle. But in Cleveland, he's an X-factor for that team. He gives them toughness, scoring and defense. If you take him off that team, they lose a lot. He's in a situation in Cleveland where he doesn't have to score 20 or 30 points to make a difference. Then again, he's not just an extra player out there on the floor.

"He hits big shots, he knows his role, he puts pressure on the defense and he gets to loose balls. Of course, playing with LeBron changes things because LeBron attracts a lot of attention. He gets double- and triple-teamed, so his teammate
Maurice Evans of the Hawks on West

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

"In not surprised by his success this season because a lot of players prevail in different systems. A guy might not be the same player in another coach's scheme. It's all about the way you're used. He's found a home in Cleveland, and I credit Mike Brown for using Delonte's talent to the best of his ability.

"They didn't utilize him the right way in Seattle. But in Cleveland, he's an X-factor for that team. He gives them toughness, scoring and defense. If you take him off that team, they lose a lot. He's in a situation in Cleveland where he doesn't have to score 20 or 30 points to make a difference. Then again, he's not just an extra player out there on the floor.

"He hits big shots, he knows his role, he puts pressure on the defense and he gets to loose balls. Of course, playing with LeBron changes things because LeBron attracts a lot of attention. He gets double- and triple-teamed, so his teammate
Maurice Evans of the Hawks on West

LOL. Charles barkley and doug collins are idiots. Broussard doesnt know what he is talking about. But suddenly, maurice evans is a genius. LOL Even funnier is that Broussard use to be the cavs beat writer although i think that was before the great delonte came to town.

Try again Chuck. Im still waiting to hear again that Trevor Ariza is a bum and Delonte West is a much better player.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL. Charles barkley and doug collins are idiots. Broussard doesnt know what he is talking about. But suddenly, maurice evans is a genius. LOL Even funnier is that Broussard use to be the cavs beat writer although i think that was before the great delonte came to town.

Try again Chuck. Im still waiting to hear again that Trevor Ariza is a bum and Delonte West is a much better player.

Doug Collins is an idiot

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I have a hard time understanding why Dala is so gaga over the Lakers. They have two really good players, one good player who is hurting, a fair young guy (Bynum- who simply isnt in shape) and a bunch of bums who dont really have any idea of what they are doing and/or are afraid of getting yelled at by Kobe. Why anyone would think they have a prayer against Cleveland is beyond me. They will beat Houston at home because they cant expect Scola and Brooks to play that well again and Darth Stern will have the refs make sure it happens (and as bad as the refs have been no one will be able to tell the difference)

As good as Denver is playing they will beat LA a few times and i never thought that they could.

The other series is awful. Orlando played poorly, shot FT's horrifically and still closed out Boston last night. The funny thing about Boston is that they are totally dead yet are still in this series. The Bulls series while exciting showed that they are pretty well finished because honestly the Bulls arent very good.

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

This thread is the gift that keeps on giving

What exactly is wrong about what I said? They won and played well but they hardly cruised through the field like you were implying. They did beat Houston, denver did beat them a few times, Bynum didnt do much, the good players played well, and the Celtics know what I said was correct as they are trying to make a big move again this offseason. Seems like most of what I said was right. As usual.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

What exactly is wrong about what I said? They won and played well but they hardly cruised through the field like you were implying. They did beat Houston, denver did beat them a few times, Bynum didnt do much, the good players played well, and the Celtics know what I said was correct as they are trying to make a big move again this offseason. Seems like most of what I said was right. As usual.

Ariza still a bum?

Originally Posted by dalakhani

i agree with this and i actually agree with the argument that this Laker team is probably the worst i have seen besides the 07 spurs team which was really bad. I think this team beats that 07 spurs team hands down.

Of course I dont.
That Spurs team played much better defense
than any of the teams we have seen the past 2years.
Not even close.

The Spurs boring teams are easy to pick on.
They just won games almost every fourth quarter
by playing superior help D. That D is now very old,
very slow, and the Spurs are very bad.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Ariza still a bum?

no he is pretty good. Surely steroids are to blame for his improvement.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Of course I dont.
That Spurs team played much better defense
than any of the teams we have seen the past 2years.
Not even close.

The Spurs boring teams are easy to pick on.
They just won games almost every fourth quarter
by playing superior help D. That D is now very old,
very slow, and the Spurs are very bad.

The Knicks are very bad. The Spurs are just old.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

no he is pretty good. Surely steroids are to blame for his improvement.

LOL, alright i think this dead horse has been adequately beaten. On to the next topic.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by pgardn

Of course I dont.
That Spurs team played much better defense
than any of the teams we have seen the past 2years.
Not even close.

The Spurs boring teams are easy to pick on.
They just won games almost every fourth quarter
by playing superior help D. That D is now very old,
very slow, and the Spurs are very bad.

It could be argued that that team was given a ride into the championship game after the fight with Phoenix. The cleveland team they beat was about the worst championship finalist ever.

That spurs team would have gotten beaten by this laker team in my opinion.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

LOL, alright i think this dead horse has been adequately beaten. On to the next topic.

honestly if he was a baseball player dont you think someone would have written a story questioning how a guy who was a horrific three point shooter suddenly becomes Steve Kerr from behind the line? Not that steroids have anything to do with it and it isnt like baseball doesnt have its issues but it is interesting how different sports are covered.

If I said that LeBron james or Kobe bryant or Randy Moss or Ladainan Tomlison would dominate thier sports in the late 50's or early 60's no one would disagree. But if I said that Albert Pujols would be the best righthanded hitter in baseball in the same timeframe virtually everyone would disagree.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

honestly if he was a baseball player dont you think someone would have written a story questioning how a guy who was a horrific three point shooter suddenly becomes Steve Kerr from behind the line? Not that steroids have anything to do with it and it isnt like baseball doesnt have its issues but it is interesting how different sports are covered.

If I said that LeBron james or Kobe bryant or Randy Moss or Ladainan Tomlison would dominate thier sports in the late 50's or early 60's no one would disagree. But if I said that Albert Pujols would be the best righthanded hitter in baseball in the same timeframe virtually everyone would disagree.

I used to go watch Mario Elie play for the Patroons in the CBA (coached by George Karl at the time). Guy was a heck of a player but couldn't hit an outside shot which was why he wasn't in the NBA. Suddenly it clicks and the guy made a pretty good NBA career mainly as an outside shooter. More recently the Patroons had Jamario Moon. His first year there it was a running joke between me and my friends of how poor of a defender he was. His second year he won Defensive Player of the Year and was onto the NBA where he's primarily a defensive stopper. Weird how it just clicks for guys in basketball.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

It could be argued that that team was given a ride into the championship game after the fight with Phoenix. The cleveland team they beat was about the worst championship finalist ever.

That spurs team would have gotten beaten by this laker team in my opinion.

The Spurs beat a bad Knicks team in 99,
a bad NJ team in 03, a decent Detroit team in 05,
a bad Cleveland team in 07. The Spurs have never
beaten a good team in any playoff.

We are not on the West or East coast, we cant be good.