Bama's offer to Saban - Page 3

#41 12-08-2006, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

well, I guess I didn't realize there were so many experts
on Alabama Football here besides myself and DD
Alabama has done nothing wrong
They simply are after the best coach they can find
as would all the top programs be in a head coaching search
we went after guy who is is highly regarded in the coaching community
and he kind of left us at the altar and changed his mind
but how does that give the media & fans of other programs
the right to rip our program for trying to make a good hire?
we gave the guy an excellent opportunity~
more than doubling his current salary, top-notch facilities,
and a chance to compete at college football's highest level
how are we wrong in doing this? because he said no?
I say we keep aiming high, if not higher
or at least higher in the quality of the individual

I think spending more than one week or so would be a good start,
Maybe compiling a good list, and making quiet inquiries rather than put coaches still coaching on the spot now before bowl games.
Its half assed dude, half assed and half baked.
The notion that guys still coaching pro and college teams are just gonna drop what they are doing and come running because its bama.
I'm saying, they are going about this the wrong way, and I think by the results they are having thats its obvious.

ddthetide · #42 12-08-2006, 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

I think spending more than one week or so would be a good start,
Maybe compiling a good list, and making quiet inquiries rather than put coaches still coaching on the spot now before bowl games.
Its half assed dude, half assed and half baked.
The notion that guys still coaching pro and college teams are just gonna drop what they are doing and come running because its bama.
I'm saying, they are going about this the wrong way, and I think by the results they are having thats its obvious.

for your info spurrier, saban, grobe contacted Bama behind the scenes.
RR was highly recommended to Bama by Homer Smith. if Homer Smith tells you to go get someone then i think you take that recommendation.

#43 12-08-2006, 09:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide

for your info spurrier, saban, grobe contacted Bama behind the scenes.
RR was highly recommended to Bama by Homer Smith. if Homer Smith tells you to go get someone then i think you take that recommendation.

their MO is to belittle the Tide and not to try and understand anything
and then make tired old racist comments which do not ring true anymore
if the Tide job isn't so important, why are we talking about it
why is it a top national sports media story over other openings:Miami, NC State, BC, etc.? and upcoming bowl games?
the have-nots will always be intimidated by the haves, and talk about
what they are doing

dr. fager · #44 12-08-2006, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

their MO is to belittle the Tide and not to try and understand anything
and then make tired old racist comments which do not ring true anymore
if the Tide job isn't so important, why are we talking about it
why is it a top national sports media story over other openings:Miami, NC State, BC, etc.? and upcoming bowl games?
the have-nots will always be intimidated by the haves, and talk about
what they are doing

You had me until you said NC State and BC....

once a coach always a coach.

#45 12-09-2006, 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

their MO is to belittle the Tide and not to try and understand anything
and then make tired old racist comments which do not ring true anymore
if the Tide job isn't so important, why are we talking about it
why is it a top national sports media story over other openings:Miami, NC State, BC, etc.? and upcoming bowl games?
the have-nots will always be intimidated by the haves, and talk about
what they are doing

Miami chose poorly in my opinion, I think they screwed up as well.
Bama's job is certainly more important than NC St and BC!!!!!!
I don't think you get what I'm saying here, I never said it wasn't still a prestigious job, I just said it wasn't at the VERY top.
I wonder why a guy named Rodriguez didn't wanna go there?

Danzig · #46 12-09-2006, 06:26 AM

i have a hard time believing saban would be interested. had he wanted to be in college bowl, he'd have stayed at lsu. he's turning miami around, they're showing good signs these days.
alabama is one of the better programs in the sec. no doubt whoever they get will be proud to be there.

ddthetide · #47 12-09-2006, 06:52 AM

saban's agaent contacted Bama before the dolphins started to win and it looked like saban would lose his job.

i guess Bama moves on to Grobe of wake, Paul Johnson of Navy, Kraigthrope of Tulsa and MAYBE Stoops at Oklahoma.

Grobe doesn't excite me. i'd love Johnson he'd do a great job and has 2 NC already. Kraigthrope, i don't know enough about and Stoops would scare me because the ncaa is snooping around oklahoma now for the off field stuff that cost him his qb at the start of the season.

uscrules · #48 12-09-2006, 07:31 AM

i have been asked to interview for the job at Alabama. Still weighing my options. it will have to wait for the end of our season here in KC. Home game this weekend but a tough Raven team to deal with. Practices were very good this week so we're expecting a big game tomorrow. Word.

#49 12-09-2006, 08:29 AM

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Originally Posted by uscrules

i have been asked to interview for the job at Alabama. Still weighing my options. it will have to wait for the end of our season here in KC. Home game this weekend but a tough Raven team to deal with. Practices were very good this week so we're expecting a big game tomorrow. Word.

Yeah ok sure, and I've been asked by President Bush to interview to be the new terror czar.

#50 12-09-2006, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ddthetide

saban's agaent contacted Bama before the dolphins started to win and it looked like saban would lose his job.

i guess Bama moves on to Grobe of wake, Paul Johnson of Navy, Kraigthrope of Tulsa and MAYBE Stoops at Oklahoma.

Grobe doesn't excite me. i'd love Johnson he'd do a great job and has 2 NC already. Kraigthrope, i don't know enough about and Stoops would scare me because the ncaa is snooping around oklahoma now for the off field stuff that cost him his qb at the start of the season.

DDtide,
I don't get it. With the success of Carroll, and with Weis grabbing every top recruit in the country, as well as the success that Butch davis had at Miami, etc. I think that its obvious that pro guys have a big edge in college.
You sit down in a kids living room and they all wanna play in the NFL. They see Weis rings, or talk a guy who like carroll who tells him he has all the pro contacts, and they wanna come and chase the dream thinking the Coach has an edge to get them there.
WHy chase all these college coaches like RR, etc. when there are some good asst coaches in the NFL who are damn smart and would love the opportunity?
Thats my point. Guys like RR aren't stupid, they realize they only have one more big move left in them, and they are gonna save it for their dream job.
I truly believe that Bowden and Paterno are just about done, and guys like RR and Rutgers guy are gonna lay in waiting for those jobs. Its just so much easier to recruit at schools like that than it is at Bama.
Saban probably would have come back to college, but his recent wins had him reasess. Its gotta be frustrating to come to a team expecting Ricky Williams and losing him, then signing Culpepper and having him be a total bust. But hes got the cash, and figures college jobs will always be there.
Pro coaches have a real grind(and assts) the camps start in July, and the season stretches until at LEAST early January.
College coaching is a bit easier timewise, and many find working with kids again after workiing with spoiled millionaires who don't listen, to be very rewarding.

Danzig · #51 12-09-2006, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Yeah ok sure, and I've been asked by President Bush to interview to be the new terror czar.

and i'm packing my bags as i'm the new ambassador to the court of st. james. having tea with the queen next thursday. have to go practice my curtsy.

Danzig · #52 12-09-2006, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

DDtide,
I don't get it. With the success of Carroll, and with Weis grabbing every top recruit in the country, as well as the success that Butch davis had at Miami, etc. I think that its obvious that pro guys have a big edge in college.
You sit down in a kids living room and they all wanna play in the NFL. They see Weis rings, or talk a guy who like carroll who tells him he has all the pro contacts, and they wanna come and chase the dream thinking the Coach has an edge to get them there.
WHy chase all these college coaches like RR, etc. when there are some good asst coaches in the NFL who are damn smart and would love the opportunity?
Thats my point. Guys like RR aren't stupid, they realize they only have one more big move left in them, and they are gonna save it for their dream job.
I truly believe that Bowden and Paterno are just about done, and guys like RR and Rutgers guy are gonna lay in waiting for those jobs. Its just so much easier to recruit at schools like that than it is at Bama.
Saban probably would have come back to college, but his recent wins had him reasess. Its gotta be frustrating to come to a team expecting Ricky Williams and losing him, then signing Culpepper and having him be a total bust. But hes got the cash, and figures college jobs will always be there.
Pro coaches have a real grind(and assts) the camps start in July, and the season stretches until at LEAST early January.
College coaching is a bit easier timewise, and many find working with kids again after workiing with spoiled millionaires who don't listen, to be very rewarding.

nick should have stayed at lsu. but that's water under the bridge. he's had some things go wrong down there, but i think he can put it all together. we shall see.

and i agree that paterno and bowden are about ready to go. how could they not be? a changing of the guard at psu/fsu. all the respect in the world for joe paterno, not so much from me for bobby bowden.

#53 12-09-2006, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Miami chose poorly in my opinion, I think they screwed up as well.
Bama's job is certainly more important than NC St and BC!!!!!!
I don't think you get what I'm saying here, I never said it wasn't still a prestigious job, I just said it wasn't at the VERY top.
I wonder why a guy named Rodriguez didn't wanna go there?

the national media did not take pot-shots at Miami when Schiano, a coach at Rutgers (with Miami ties) turned them down like they did when Coach Rod turned Bama down...it's like they have an agenda against us. Also, Miami, with a higher hispanic population wanted Coach Rod as well, but he only listened to us. I agree they should get an NFL guy as the remaining "hot" college guys don't impress me either. But that would mean waiting about 4-5 weeks at the very least, while the solid recruiting class Shula lined up is dropping by the hour without a head coach in place.

#54 12-09-2006, 09:13 AM

Paul Bryant Jr. has to give up control and Mal needs to retire. This is a failure of epic proportions on their part. It's so bad we'll probably be reduced to offering Rush Propst the job and he'll decline and stay with Hoover.

#55 12-09-2006, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by BellamyRd.

the national media did not take pot-shots at Miami when Schiano, a coach at Rutgers (with Miami ties) turned them down like they did when Coach Rod turned Bama down...it's like they have an agenda against us. Also, Miami, with a higher hispanic population wanted Coach Rod as well, but he only listened to us. I agree they should get an NFL guy as the remaining "hot" college guys don't impress me either. But that would mean waiting about 4-5 weeks at the very least, while the solid recruiting class Shula lined up is dropping by the hour without a head coach in place.

Dude, the guy at Rutgers has pulled off the greatest coaching miracle I ever saw. EVER! he turned around and made a winner into a team that noone in the world would have felt possible.
His next move is to a dream job, and Miami aint no dream job.
That guy wants Penn St, it aint no secret. At some point Joe Pa will do whats right and make sure when he steps down that they will get the guy they need. Hes the guy. He can stay in the east and move to the Big Ten.
He wasn't going to Miami and everyone knew it.
Logistics do play a role in a job a guy takes, and Alabama isn't a big media market. You'll end up getting the right guy, it just won't be the guys you initially wanted.
Tom Coughlin may be available soon, God I hope so, and hes a better college coach than a pro coach. Hes aged about 30 years the last few years in NY, and I bet he'd like a job like that. he'd be on my list if I were Bama.

#56 12-09-2006, 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Tom Coughlin may be available soon, God I hope so, and hes a better college coach than a pro coach. Hes aged about 30 years the last few years in NY, and I bet he'd like a job like that. he'd be on my list if I were Bama.

You're kidding right?

paisjpq · #57 12-09-2006, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

and i'm packing my bags as i'm the new ambassador to the court of st. james. having tea with the queen next thursday. have to go practice my curtsy.

they have asked me to host the ocsars this year...still on the fence about it though...

uscrules · #58 12-09-2006, 09:32 AM

tom coughlin couldnt coach a high school team let alone a team with the storied history like Alabama. not sure if i will pursue this offer, may take a job back in Cali under Coach Pete. my phone has been ringing off the hook and it looks like a perfect fit. god i miss surfing.

#59 12-09-2006, 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by uscrules

tom coughlin couldnt coach a high school team let alone a team with the storied history like Alabama. not sure if i will pursue this offer, may take a job back in Cali under Coach Pete. my phone has been ringing off the hook and it looks like a perfect fit. god i miss surfing.

dude, what is that house in your avatar?

uscrules · #60 12-09-2006, 09:37 AM

its my house i just bought 2 months ago.
off to the weight room now. you have a good day Bama fan.