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Old 09-21-2013, 05:00 PM
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No equipment change today. Go D Wayne.
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Old 09-21-2013, 08:47 PM
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Guillot just reiterated his allegation of the buzzer on Steve's show saying to him the video was obvious.
Can't wait to hear what he has to say about this one. Probably gonna rant about his horse coming off the rail as the only reason WTC got the win. Those voodoo dolls must not be working.
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:38 PM
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his hoss Moreno is a nice hoss. tries hard. ran a game second. got squeezed at the start which didn't help, He's my classic hoss.


will take charge's gallop out after the Travers was unusual to say the least.
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:51 PM
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his hoss Moreno is a nice hoss. tries hard. ran a game second. got squeezed at the start which didn't help, He's my classic hoss.
Good luck with that.
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:57 PM
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his hoss Moreno is a nice hoss. tries hard. ran a game second. got squeezed at the start which didn't help, He's my classic hoss.


will take charge's gallop out after the Travers was unusual to say the least.
It's early for a Charles Town Classic pick.
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Old 09-21-2013, 10:57 PM
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his hoss Moreno is a nice hoss. tries hard. ran a game second. got squeezed at the start which didn't help, He's my classic hoss.


will take charge's gallop out after the Travers was unusual to say the least.
As if the weight put on this horse by Guillot isn't enough.
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Old 09-22-2013, 12:52 AM
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will take charge's gallop out after the Travers was unusual to say the least.
No actually it wasn't.
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Old 09-22-2013, 01:23 AM
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No actually it wasn't.


People see what they want to see, that's really what it is. If you want to think there was something shady, you'll find it. Didn't see anything wrong with the ride. I've seen perfectly natural, non-buzzer sudden turns of foot in other races and nobody groused about those. He obviously surged once in the clear.
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Old 09-22-2013, 11:35 AM
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People see what they want to see, that's really what it is. If you want to think there was something shady, you'll find it. Didn't see anything wrong with the ride. I've seen perfectly natural, non-buzzer sudden turns of foot in other races and nobody groused about those. He obviously surged once in the clear.
For all the people who believe that they "saw something" I'd like to ask how many close up video shots of gallop outs have they watched to be able to put it into context. The true answer would most likely be none.
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Old 09-25-2013, 05:35 PM
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http://espn.go.com/horse-racing/blog...e-pennsylvania


guillot doesn't want to let it go, does he?



Speaking by phone, Guillot was quoted in the New York Daily News as saying, "It set it right up for Will Take Charge, who was the best horse today."

Of course, letting go isn't easy, and Guillot had to resurrect the past when asked if there was anything questionable this time around.

"I don't know," he said in the Daily News story, "I didn't see a late surge like I saw in the Travers."

What he saw in the Travers is debatable, though what can be said with more certainty is that Guillot would have been better served if he had been less verbose after the Travers. While he was within his rights to file a complaint with the New York State Gaming Commission, Guillot crossed a line in his comments about the incident. He served as judge, jury and executioner in issuing numerous comments that Saez was guilty beyond a shadow of doubt -- and in the end, his tone may wind up tarnishing his own reputation if the case is dismissed
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:04 AM
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It is extremely hard to further tarnish the reputation of someone that most everyone already thinks is an idiot.
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Old 09-26-2013, 07:06 AM
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It is extremely hard to further tarnish the reputation of someone that most everyone already thinks is an idiot.


i wonder if the jock is considering legal action.
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Per DRF Hegarty tweet --- NY Racing Commission has determined that Saez was not carrying an sort of electrical device.

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Old 10-04-2013, 01:58 PM
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I was thinking Thanksgiving time for this...glad they could come out with findings in such a timely fashion.
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Old 10-04-2013, 03:49 PM
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Full report:

http://www.gaming.ny.gov/pdf/10.04.1...estigation.pdf

“I Eric Guillot am filing a complaint for our lost in the race called the Traver’s at Saratoga on Aug 24th 2013
–My horse Moreno was beat a nose on the wire by horse named Take Charge Indy After suffering biggest defeat in our career my brother Chip who was here cooking Cajun food had recorded races on NBC line for family once
he got home and watched replay on NBC on big plasma TV he said it was obvious the kid had trouble celebrating cuss of black device in right hand switching too left hand and tucking under left shoulder under saddle
pad! We feel this has crossed every integrity line of horse racing and would like this investigated an resolved!”
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Old 10-04-2013, 03:55 PM
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Can you have Guillot back on ATR to issue the public apology to D Wayne and Luis. He indicated he would do so when final decision from the investigation was reached. Also a donation from Guillot and Moreno to the disabled jockey fund in the amount of money spent on the investigation would seem appropriate.
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Old 10-04-2013, 11:32 PM
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Bravo. Poor Luis, having his named dragged through the mud. At least this wasn't on the level that Jose Santos faced. I'm glad Will Take Charge got that win in the PA Derby. If Guillot sincerely believed he saw something, I get wanting to stand up for yourself, but the way he did it smacked of poor sportsmanship.
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Old 10-05-2013, 10:34 AM
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Can you have Guillot back on ATR to issue the public apology to D Wayne and Luis. He indicated he would do so when final decision from the investigation was reached.
Maybe.. I'll ask. And we can have Lukas on too and he can account for the things a lot of people would like to see him answer to...
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Old 10-05-2013, 01:52 PM
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Full report:

http://www.gaming.ny.gov/pdf/10.04.1...estigation.pdf

“I Eric Guillot am filing a complaint for our lost in the race called the Traver’s at Saratoga on Aug 24th 2013
–My horse Moreno was beat a nose on the wire by horse named Take Charge Indy After suffering biggest defeat in our career my brother Chip who was here cooking Cajun food had recorded races on NBC line for family once
he got home and watched replay on NBC on big plasma TV he said it was obvious the kid had trouble celebrating cuss of black device in right hand switching too left hand and tucking under left shoulder under saddle
pad! We feel this has crossed every integrity line of horse racing and would like this investigated an resolved!”
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Old 10-11-2013, 12:09 PM
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As if the weight put on this horse by Guillot isn't enough.
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