Verrazano -- The Real Deal or Paper Tiger?

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Countdown until the announcement that he is getting some time off for a Gulfstream campaign...

[booner]

Is it just me or did he look uncomfortable the entire backstretch run?

[pucknut]

He never looked comfortable palace didn't run his race and orb needed this
Moreno might just be getting better
And the old grandmaster wins another racing jewel

[alysheba4]

dont give up on verrazano..... how many good horses have ran up the track at saratoga..... to many to name.

[Vegaskid]

In his 2 biggest races of his life he failed badly.... time to change up the game plan on him... personally I would like to see him run the mile on turf and go after Wise Dan

[knickslions2]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

The problem though is he really was never running at 8 furlongs in this race.

Agree he was in a perfect position but never got going

[classhandicapper]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

The problem though is he really was never running at 8 furlongs in this race.

You can argue he didn't do his best running in the Travers and I wouldn't argue much, but his record has been compiled in soft fields with easy trips (other than the Derby). Even the Haskell was kind of soft once Oxbox didn't run well.

I think he's a quality miler that can stretch further on talent alone if he gets a soft trip or easy field, but he's not the first horse I've seen that looked like a world beater going 8/9 furlongs against weaker that chucked it in early against a quality field going 10F. Unfortunately for me I held that view before the race but blew the bet.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by classhandicapper

Even the Haskell was kind of soft once Oxbox didn't run well.

I also didn't hurt him when the only competition in the race pulled up.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

I also didn't hurt him when the only competition in the race pulled up.

Do you mean in the Pegasus?

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Do you mean in the Pegasus?

Yes, obviously. I had my my no competition romps confused.

[fowler]

He was entered in the wrong race. Should have gone in the Kings Bishop.

[Sightseek]

Training up to the BC Mile.

[pmayjr]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Training up to the BC Mile.

Dirt mile or turf mile?

[RockHardTen1985]

Originally Posted by fowler

He was entered in the wrong race. Should have gone in the Kings Bishop.

I said that after the Monmouth romp, multiple times. I think 10f is to far the cutback would have been great.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

I said that after the Monmouth romp, multiple times. I think 10f is to far the cutback would have been great.

The colt has won not once but twice at 9f's with major speed figs, yet you think 7 furlongs is his best distance. Its not like he ran his race in either the derby or the Travers. Did you ever thinkthat the "program" the colt is on doesnt lend itself to two races in a row or that he just didnt fire in the Travers? When a colt wins 9 panel races with very solid figs and isnt dying at the wire I suggets another furlong is well within his scope...

[pmayjr]

I'm not ready to give up on him at longer distances either. I'd just like to see one more time at longer. Especially with Pletch willing to still try a mile and a quarter with Cross Traffic. Why not give Verrazano one more go?

But if not, are they saying dirt mile or turf mile with him?