obama, state of the union

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

American auto industry saved Only a moron would beliee this

You think that the auto industry in the United States would still exist without the government saving it?



Hearts of magical electoral hope breaking all over Republicanland, as Mitch Daniels gives GOP response to SOTU, and looks and sounds more boring and stilted than Mitt. And even W. Very sad.

Oh - and empty platitudes. No content. Very sad. Goodbye, GOP. You used to be a great party. Now you're just the John Birch Society owned by a few corporatists.

“As Republicans our first concern is for those waiting tonight to begin or resume the climb up life’s ladder. We do not accept that ours will ever be a nation of haves and have nots; we must always be a nation of haves and soon to haves.”

"Hey! You are not a have. But you have to have hope that someday you will! And class warfare! And End Medicare! And Snark!"

What losers. What fools.

[lord007]

Originally Posted by bigrun

Newt’s Faulty Food-Stamp Claim

Newt Gingrich claims that “more people have been put on food stamps by Barack Obama than any president in American history.” He’s wrong. More were added under Bush than under Obama, according to the most recent figures

http://factcheck.org/2012/01/newts-f...d-stamp-claim/

http://pjmedia.com/blog/barack-obama...amp-president/

[Cannon Shell]

Only fools and morons listen to what politicians have to say in 2012 and actually believe them. Who cares what Obama says? Who cares what the reactions to the speech are? It is all a bunch of made up bullshit.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Only fools and morons listen to what politicians have to say in 2012 and actually believe them. Who cares what Obama says? Who cares what the reactions to the speech are? It is all a bunch of made up bullshit.

Only fools and morons ignore what's happening in this country, paying no attention at all. They deserve what they get.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Only fools and morons ignore what's happening in this country, paying no attention at all. They deserve what they get.

You more or less just described yourself...

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http://factcheck.org/2012/01/the-state-of-obamas-facts/

[wiphan]

Originally Posted by Riot

Only fools and morons ignore what's happening in this country, paying no attention at all. They deserve what they get.

Only fools believe what any politician says and can't read between the lines. They are all liars especially in an election year. If you take owebama for everything he said then yes his speach was great. Let's take for instance
this quote:

President Obama gave his State of the Union address last night and as far as housing goes, the President said the he will be sending Congress a plan that gives every responsible homeowner the chance to save about $3,000 a year on their mortgage, by refinancing at historically low interest rates, no more red tape.

That means a savings of $250/month without any red tape. Let's say for instance you have a rate of 5.25% on 100,000 your new interest rate would have to be around .57% for you to lower your payments $250/month. Now lets take $200,000 your new interest rate would have to be 3.35% or lower to save $250/month on a 30 yr rate. Is this really reasonable or feasible? He said no more red tape. Did you know that by passing the 2 month payroll tax that they increased mortgage rates by charging higher G-fees on mortgages? Did you know that it will take 10 years of these fees to pay for 2 months of the payroll tax?

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Originally Posted by Danzig

http://factcheck.org/2012/01/the-state-of-obamas-facts/

Don't bring facts into this discussion.

Same speech as 2010, 2011. Same rhetoric, many times the exact same words.

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Originally Posted by wiphan

Only fools believe what any politician says and can't read between the lines. They are all liars especially in an election year. If you take owebama for everything he said then yes his speach was great. Let's take for instance
this quote:

President Obama gave his State of the Union address last night and as far as housing goes, the President said the he will be sending Congress a plan that gives every responsible homeowner the chance to save about $3,000 a year on their mortgage, by refinancing at historically low interest rates, no more red tape.

That means a savings of $250/month without any red tape. Let's say for instance you have a rate of 5.25% on 100,000 your new interest rate would have to be around .57% for you to lower your payments $250/month. Now lets take $200,000 your new interest rate would have to be 3.35% or lower to save $250/month on a 30 yr rate. Is this really reasonable or feasible? He said no more red tape. Did you know that by passing the 2 month payroll tax that they increased mortgage rates by charging higher G-fees on mortgages? Did you know that it will take 10 years of these fees to pay for 2 months of the payroll tax?

Basic, simple math is not welcome either.

Sign me up for the .57 rate please.

Here's the real state of the union...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJzPNQaX1c0

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Here's the real state of the union...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJzPNQaX1c0

Adelaide is one serious hell hole.

[dellinger63]

Must admit the Prez had some gems mixed in among his abstract talking point goals.

The first is eliminating tax breaks for corporations outsourcing jobs to foreign countries. To be honest I wasn’t aware of any such tax credit for outsourcing jobs but would love to know when it came into existence and why? (If it really exists) Then love to see it go away forever. The President’s plan of dispersing the money saved, among companies like MasterLock is ludicrous and wasteful of course, (Masterlock made the move to bring back jobs w/o gov involvement) but baby steps.

Second was enacting a law to keep teens in school until 18. Obviously a great idea considering stats showing how important having a HS diploma (at least) is for future financial well-being. However w/o any teeth to the law it’s impotent. I submit keeping your child in school is at least as equally important to keeping weeds on your lawn cut under 8 inches so like the anti-weeders fine the parents $600-$1200/per day and watch parents suddenly get involved in their children’s education.

Bottom line synopsis of the entire speech is the President still hasn’t figured out that government has no business financing private business. Government spending does not ensure job growth and to the contrary creates massive debt with only few jobs.

How about that Mitch Daniels response? Thought BO had launched another DRONE! Man, that may have been worse than the LA governor two years ago.

Does the GOP just put these guys up to sacrifice them?


Ocala Mike

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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike

How about that Mitch Daniels response? Thought BO had launched another DRONE! Man, that may have been worse than the LA governor two years ago.

Does the GOP just put these guys up to sacrifice them?

Ocala Mike

I'm shocked at Daniels poor performance. He is the Great White Hope of the brokered convention this summer with Christie and Rubio. That was truly painful, watching him try to read a teleprompter carefully word by word.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You more or less just described yourself...

Am I supposed to say, "Nanny nanny boo boo, I'm rubber you're glue" now?

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Originally Posted by wiphan

Only fools believe what any politician says and can't read between the lines.

Nobody was talking about that. That was another one of Cannon's weird segues into strange land, to avoid having to explain how our auto industry would have recovered from bankruptcy and ruin all on it's own without any government intervention. Because the government didn't save it. At all.

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants

You bet. Four more years, baby!

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