Discreet Cat makes huge statement in comeback

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Who cares? A horse doesn't know what background his/her owner comes from. I root for who I think is the best horse, plain and simple.

Joel,

You really do need to chill out, though. It is very unprofessional of YOU to be a hypocrite and point out that others in the business may not like Oracle. Why did you feel the need to post that? It's a shame that you can't grow some balls and stick up for yourself without putting another person down... disappointing...

Sorry your disappointed Cajun...maybe if you kept up with this as it mushroomed Saturday then you would understand a little better...I asure you of one thing - I DID NOT start with the persoanl attacks or attacks of any matter..I was reporting and chatting and then I was personally attacked AGAIN...ask anyone who saw the initial statements that Oracle made that derailed this train off its tracks - you clearly haven't read through all the threads...

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

Sorry your disappointed Cajun...maybe if you kept up with this as it mushroomed Saturday then you would understand a little better...I asure you of one thing - I DID NOT start with the persoanl attacks or attacks of any matter..I was reporting and chatting and then I was personally attacked AGAIN...ask anyone who saw the initial statements that Oracle made that derailed this train off its tracks - you clearly haven't read through all the threads...

Joel you are a liar. Thats a fact. You attributed statements to me that i never made and refuse to acknowledge that I never made them.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Correct me if I'm wrong, please.

I did....read the post north of this one....

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I did....read the post north of this one....

Joel, I will not quit on this. And will continue to show the liar that you are.
Now once again, please find the posts in which I make the statements that you have attributed to me.

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Because I expect MORE of Joel than that. That's why. Most of the posters on this board are aware of Oracle's outbursts and know that he hardly ever means anything from them. For Joel to call out Mike like that and degrade him in his line of business on a public message board... well, let's just say that I expect more out of him. I respect BOTH of their opinions (at different times), but in this situation, I think that Joel was out of line by bringing business into the conversation. JMO.

I expected a little more from you than attacking me as being hypocritical when I AGAIN didn't start the negativity here...I ignor most negativity, but when somebody comes on here and rips into my personal life like Oracle has done on several occasions without provokement - then I am going to take up for myself the way I feel appropriate.....I won't let anybody attempt to deface me for no reason....that is my American right

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Joel was out of line for responding to constant attacks but the attacker wasnt out of line because you "expect more" from Joel? That makes a TON of sense. So basically, Joel gets penalised because he is usually a nice guy but Oralguy80 is given a free pass because he always does it.

Joel is human just like the rest of us. Oralguy has questioned his credibility amongst a few other swipes in the last couple of months. He also threatened him in another thread. How could he not respond?

Joel is passionate and he is well versed. I dont always agree but he is a joy to read. But the only thing i expect out of him is to be human and i dont expect any more or less out of him than i do the oralguy or anyone else.

Thanks Dalakhani.....I appreciate that at least soembody understands where I'm coming from....I did not want this....this is all counterproductive and a HUGE waste of time...I'd rather be talking about horses, but I will not sit back and allow people to attack me for no reason...it is not right and its against my nature....

Sorry that some of you don't understand that.

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

I expected a little more from you than attacking me as being hypocritical when I AGAIN didn't start the negativity here...I ignor most negativity, but when somebody comes on here and rips into my personal life like Oracle has done on several occasions without provokement - then I am going to take up for myself the way I feel appropriate.....I won't let anybody attempt to deface me for no reason....that is my American right

Joel I attacked you because you misunderstood a comment I made an then distorted it and then made up outright lies. Now look, you've had two days here to show the posts you allege I made in which i spoke bad about Sheikh Mo. You can't do it because I never made any.
Ask yourself this Joel, how would you react to me if you logged on one evening here and foundd an entire thread littered with things attributed to you(things you never said) by me? WOuld you launch at me? I'm quite sure you would.
We had been getting along just fine and even exchanging friendly bets. But your behavior towards me on Saturday was simply wrong, you lied about what I said,plain and simple. And even if it wasn't a lie on purpose and you just misunderstood what i was saying, you certainly are intellgent enough to have gone back and seen where you goofed and at least acknowledged that you misunderstood something that i said.

Jesus--will you two grow up. I swear. You two act like 2 school girls. Who cares what or who said what about who and who misinterupated something blah blah blah. Let it go or put on your make-up and pull each others hair.

Originally Posted by eurobounce

Jesus--will you two grow up. I swear. You two act like 2 school girls. Who cares what or who said what about who and who misinterupated something blah blah blah. Let it go or put on your make-up and pull each others hair.

Hey euro, **** you!!! It makes a huge difference when someone accuses you of saying something pretty awful about someone that you never said.

I suppose you won't mind then if I start a thread convincing everyone that you are a molester? What Joel said about me wasn't quite that bad, but I'm sure you get the point. Bascially euro, go **** yourself.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Joel I attacked you because you misunderstood a comment I made an then distorted it and then made up outright lies.

NO SIR...this is where your lies begin, sir....you attacked me with this statement that was made to my Discreet Cat story that I was nice enough to post on the forum for everybody in an attempt to add some Editorial to this catboard per Steve Byk's - the owner of Derbytrail.com - request from me.....

The following statement by you in my Discreet Cat thread that I posted on Friday evening was the persoanl slander by you that started this whole mess....it was posted by you at 6:56 a.m. Saturday morning - WAAAYYY before I posted anything about you...the facts are the facts...go look for yourself and I also invite everybody else to go see the post times and the facts to see who initiated this cowardes onslaught of persoanlt attacks when I was simply trying to add some value to thsi wenbsite per the administarators with me to do so.....shame on you Mike....It appears as though you are the one who needs to fess up to your careless lies and negative behavior....

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Ummm, they already have a lotta suckups, perhaps he could be a camel tuneup guy.

By the way, your operation got their balls handed to them again when Todd Pletcher's Fleet Indian absolutely urinated on Balletto. Imagine that, a "lowly" NY bred humiliates the best that money can buy. Thats great!!!! Stick that in that your non US supporting traitorous ass why don't you buddy boy!!!!

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(The above statement was made by Oracle first thing Saturday morning to initiate personal attacks on Cunningham Racing)

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

I guess my expectations for him are higher than yours are for him...

This is a ridiculous statement and that is all I'll say...

Ironically, I'm a little disappointed in Cajun for this statement....

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

NO SIR...this is where your lies begin, sir....you attacked me with this statement that was made to my Discreet Cat story that I was nice enough to post on the forum for everybody in an attempt to add some Editorial to this catboard per Steve Byk's - the owner of Derbytrail.com - request from me.....

The following statement by you in my Discreet Cat thread that I posted on Friday evening was the persoanl slander by you that started this whole mess....it was posted by you at 6:56 a.m. Saturday morning - WAAAYYY before I posted anything about you...the facts are the facts...go look for yourself and I also invite everybody else to go see the post times and the facts to see who initiated this cowardes onslaught of persoanlt attacks when I was simply trying to add some value to thsi wenbsite per the administarators with me to do so.....shame on you Mike....It appears as though you are the one who needs to fess up to your careless lies and negative behavior....

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Ummm, they already have a lotta suckups, perhaps he could be a camel tuneup guy.

By the way, your operation got their balls handed to them again when Todd Pletcher's Fleet Indian absolutely urinated on Balletto. Imagine that, a "lowly" NY bred humiliates the best that money can buy. Thats great!!!! Stick that in that your non US supporting traitorous ass why don't you buddy boy!!!!

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(The above statement was made by Oracle first thing Saturday morning to initiate personal attacks on Cunningham Racing)

Nice "strawman" attempt you gutless little liar. Please show me the part of that post in which i accuse Sheikh Mo or any of the royal family to be terrorists or terrorist sympathizers!!!!! This is what you have claimed that i said.
That is what is at issue here.
We all know you would rather root for another country's participants over ours, you established that a long time ago. I suppose when you watch the olympics that you root for the Russian figure skaters to beat ours as well.

Once again Joel, please address the specific accusations you have made regarding any comments I have made about Sheikh Mo.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Because I expect MORE of Joel than that. That's why. Most of the posters on this board are aware of Oracle's outbursts and know that he hardly ever means anything from them. For Joel to call out Mike like that and degrade him in his line of business on a public message board... well, let's just say that I expect more out of him. I respect BOTH of their opinions (at different times), but in this situation, I think that Joel was out of line by bringing business into the conversation. JMO.

I hate to even get into this but, come on why should Mike get a pass for behaving like a petulant child and Joel has to sit quietly and take it? Nearly every argument around here has begun when a poster disagrees with Mike about anything and instead of simply defending or correcting his argument he begins hurling insults...it's become very tired.

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

NO SIR...this is where your lies begin, sir....you attacked me with this statement that was made to my Discreet Cat story that I was nice enough to post on the forum for everybody in an attempt to add some Editorial to this catboard per Steve Byk's - the owner of Derbytrail.com - request from me.....

The following statement by you in my Discreet Cat thread that I posted on Friday evening was the persoanl slander by you that started this whole mess....it was posted by you at 6:56 a.m. Saturday morning - WAAAYYY before I posted anything about you...the facts are the facts...go look for yourself and I also invite everybody else to go see the post times and the facts to see who initiated this cowardes onslaught of persoanlt attacks when I was simply trying to add some value to thsi wenbsite per the administarators with me to do so.....shame on you Mike....It appears as though you are the one who needs to fess up to your careless lies and negative behavior....

<QUOTE>

Ummm, they already have a lotta suckups, perhaps he could be a camel tuneup guy.

By the way, your operation got their balls handed to them again when Todd Pletcher's Fleet Indian absolutely urinated on Balletto. Imagine that, a "lowly" NY bred humiliates the best that money can buy. Thats great!!!! Stick that in that your non US supporting traitorous ass why don't you buddy boy!!!!

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(The above statement was made by Oracle first thing Saturday morning to initiate personal attacks on Cunningham Racing)

The only thing wrong with his post is he called you a traitor. And lets be honest, to some who are well informed and love this country you pretty much are a traitor. Dubai was, and still is, the epicenter for terrorists to hide their fortune and wire it to sleeper cells when needed.

Who is in charge of UAE? Who owns Godolphin, Darley and all of the smaller stables?

Do the math and get back to me.

Originally Posted by oracle80

Nice "strawman" attempt you gutless little liar. Please show me the part of that post in which i accuse Sheikh Mo or any of the royal family to be terrorists or terrorist sympathizers!!!!! This is what you have claimed that i said.
That is what is at issue here.
We all know you would rather root for another country's participants over ours, you established that a long time ago. I suppose when you watch the olympics that you root for the Russian figure skaters to beat ours as well.

I'm showing the part where you started this whole mess, Mike....If you weren't a moron you would realize that you are to blame for all this mess for your childish stab at me as being a "traitor-ass" for liking a few Dubai-owned horses....grow up and accept some freakin' responsibilty man....

And hey, you're the one who roots for the un-American Johnny Velazquez....

Originally Posted by Pillow Pants

The only thing wrong with his post is he called you a traitor. And lets be honest, to some who are well informed and love this country you pretty much are a traitor. Dubai was, and still is, the epicenter for terrorists to hide their fortune and wire it to sleeper cells when needed.

Who is in charge of UAE? Who owns Godolphin, Darley and all of the smaller stables?

Do the math and get back to me.

Keep posting....you show your ignorance more and more every post you make

Originally Posted by paisjpq

I hate to even get into this but, come on why should Mike get a pass for behaving like a petulant child and Joel has to sit quietly and take it? Nearly every argument around here has begun when a poster disagrees with Mike about anything and instead of simply defending or correcting his argument he begins hurling insults...it's become very tired.

Pais,
There is a huge difference between insulting someone and accusing them of calling a person and his family terrorists wouldnt you agree?
One is no big deal and the other is.
And you can bet your god damn ass that if I mistakenly attributed remarks that serious to Joel or anyone else and I screwed up, that I would apologize to him.

[paisjpq]

Originally Posted by oracle80

Pais,
There is a huge difference between insulting someone and accusing them of calling a person and his family terrorists wouldnt you agree?
One is no big deal and the other is.
And you can bet your god damn ass that if I mistakenly attributed remarks that serious to Joel or anyone else and I screwed up, that I would apologize to him.

no I wouldn't agree. And I frankly don't believe that you would apologize. but it's not my fight so that's all I have to say. you have my number if you want to discuss further.

Originally Posted by paisjpq

no I wouldn't agree. And I frankly don't believe that you would apologize. but it's not my fight so that's all I have to say. you have my number if you want to discuss further.

I would apologize if I attributed something that serious to anyone, even Joel, and was mistaken.