Freshman sires

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Unless she is missing a leg, wouldn't this filly have some worth as a broodmare prospect? (on their RNA list)

http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/sep09/pdfs/3658.pdf

In this market not really. No graded black type in the 1st dam and too much turf. This kind will sell for 3 or 4k at Kee Jan.

[Indian Charlie]

TDN has a rather in depth analysis of freshman sires for the upcoming year, today.

Pretty interesting read.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is Ken Ramsey. He will want the 40k everytime. If you havent noticed, about 90% of KJ's foals are homebreds.

Byk's finest work is his Kitten schtick on ATR with his JEW BOY friends.. BUT Kittens Joy is a real stallion.. He clearly can get runners and although there maybe be 11265 foals in his first crop...You would be foolish not to want one.. KJ is here to stay!

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

In this market not really. No graded black type in the 1st dam and too much turf. This kind will sell for 3 or 4k at Kee Jan.

Challenge 3 or 4k..you really hate Kenny boy.. This one is 20k plus

[Merlinsky]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Challenge 3 or 4k..you really hate Kenny boy.. This one is 20k plus

Seriously? I looked at the female family. I don't get it. There are other KJs out there. Why $20K for this one?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by freddymo

Challenge 3 or 4k..you really hate Kenny boy.. This one is 20k plus

Get real. Strictly as a mare? You could buy half sisters to a horse of the year for 20k at the Nov sale and with 5th/3rd completely getting out of the equine lending business the next sale will be even worse. An unraced mare by a sire who has never sired a graded winner out of a NY bred mare with no graded blacktype? $4k is probably too much.

I get along fine with Ramsey, I just dont want him to owe me money.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Get real. Strictly as a mare? You could buy half sisters to a horse of the year for 20k at the Nov sale and with 5th/3rd completely getting out of the equine lending business the next sale will be even worse. An unraced mare by a sire who has never sired a graded winner out of a NY bred mare with no graded blacktype? $4k is probably too much.

I get along fine with Ramsey, I just dont want him to owe me money.

I thought she was a yearling didnt look closely enough.. My bad

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by freddymo

I thought she was a yearling didnt look closely enough.. My bad

She is a yearling - at least for 2 more days.

[Rudeboyelvis]

Thread from March - where FreddyDoh chimed in with his with his usual un-thoughtout, half cocked opinion:

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/showthread.php?t=28628

Guess Wildcat Heir turned out to be fairly serviceable after all

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

While stranger things have happened, it is highly doubtful that this years freshman stallions will have any lasting impact, let alone be anywhere in the same stratosphere as last years outstanding group.

I agree. There appears to be no comparison between 2008 and 2009. 2008 was an incredibly strong year for freshman stallions. To have Tapit, Megdalia D'Oro, Candy Ride, Lion Heart, and Speighstown in the same year is a very strong year. Candy Ride is on fire right now. I was considering sending a mare to him this year but I heard he is booked full and the seasons are going from $27k-$35k with no guarantee.