Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #41  
Old 06-09-2009, 07:36 AM
cowgirlintexas's Avatar
cowgirlintexas cowgirlintexas is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Mortyville, USA
Posts: 3,077
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Tuesday 6/9 Update (8:25am):

Reports confirm that Dunkirk has a non-displaced condylar fracture in his left hind. Surgery today...
Well, they sure managed to keep it "hush hush" so far. Still not a word in the news, at least none I could see.

Hope it all goes well and that Saturday wasn't the last time we will see him run.
Reply With Quote
  #42  
Old 06-09-2009, 08:22 AM
Coach Pants
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by 2Hot4TV
Cant afford your medication this month?
Instead of taking pot shots and going completely off-topic in some twisted hurt p.ussy scenario where you try to defend the honor of one of the darted douchebags who used to peruse this site and troll on a daily basis, why don't you contribute to a thread by remaining on topic? Or is that too difficult for you to accomplish, Prince Valiant?

On topic: Dunkirk is done and Riot redboarded an injury.
Reply With Quote
  #43  
Old 06-09-2009, 08:41 AM
Sightseek's Avatar
Sightseek Sightseek is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Posts: 11,024
Default

Gross, what a headline.

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...dylar-fracture
Reply With Quote
  #44  
Old 06-09-2009, 08:48 AM
CSC's Avatar
CSC CSC is offline
Arlington Park
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Posts: 4,408
Default

This from a raceplayer and fan's point of view, I thought the maintenance crew did a remarkable job getting the track ready to provide a memorable day of racing, it was night and day when you compare it with Derby day. It would be very unfair suggest the track condition may have been a cause for any injuries that may occurred. Sorry I just had to get that off of my chest.
Reply With Quote
  #45  
Old 06-09-2009, 08:49 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is online now
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,964
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cowgirlintexas
Well, they sure managed to keep it "hush hush" so far. Still not a word in the news, at least none I could see.

Hope it all goes well and that Saturday wasn't the last time we will see him run.
Sorry if this comes off as egocentric, but "At the Races" is a three hour daily radio news magazine about Thoroughbred Racing that airs on North American-wide satellite radio with a listnership of more than 20,000 any given week. The 'word in the news' came on "At the Races", and while my record with stories of this nature isn't 100% perfect, it's pretty darn close. When I have it first, I almost always have it right.
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
Reply With Quote
  #46  
Old 06-09-2009, 08:55 AM
Antitrust32 Antitrust32 is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ft Lauderdale
Posts: 9,413
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Sorry if this comes off as egocentric, but "At the Races" is a three hour daily radio news magazine about Thoroughbred Racing that airs on North American-wide satellite radio with a listnership of more than 20,000 any given week. The 'word in the news' came on "At the Races", and while my record with stories of this nature isn't 100% perfect, it's pretty darn close. When I have it first, I almost always have it right.

There's an At the Races magazine now??

Hope it feature's a girl of the month spread... like Gene's (the only good part of his magazine/newspaper).
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Can I start just making stuff up out of thin air, too?
Reply With Quote
  #47  
Old 06-09-2009, 09:15 AM
pgiaco's Avatar
pgiaco pgiaco is offline
Woodbine
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: Brewster, NY
Posts: 1,028
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
Sorry if this comes off as egocentric, but "At the Races" is a three hour daily radio news magazine about Thoroughbred Racing that airs on North American-wide satellite radio with a listnership of more than 20,000 any given week. The 'word in the news' came on "At the Races", and while my record with stories of this nature isn't 100% perfect, it's pretty darn close. When I have it first, I almost always have it right.
Shameless self promoter!
__________________
You have a million dollar set of legs and a five cent fart for a brain.-Herb Brooks
Reply With Quote
  #48  
Old 06-09-2009, 09:32 AM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 6,086
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Danzig
i'd imagine that unbridled song gets labelled as producing unsoundness because he was an early retiree, and many of his best are as well-but that may be a result of demand for his sons at stud, moreso than any facts about unsoundness. as soon as they show any real promise (rockport harbor) the talk starts. as soon as there is a setback, more often then not, the decision is made to retire the horse rather than risk more injury, or more losses.
however, he had a couple horses on the the derby trail this year-old fashioned didn't make it into the gate, and now dunkirk is said to be injured. dunkirk also has very few lifetime starts-which i feel makes it laughable to say that the rigors of racing are to blame for his injury-he hasn't exactly done a lot of racing.


but i do find it funny in an ironic sort of way that people talk about breeding unsoundness...but when a good horse who has also exhibited fragility is retired, there are many who say well, just breed the right mare to him, it'll be ok. ghostzapper is a good case in point-when he went to stud, and i questioned why anyone would want to send a mare to a horse that could only manage three/four starts a year, my sanity was questioned. he was a fast horse, so unsoundness be damned was the gist of it.
I think what happens is a lot of Unbridled's Song's need time to grow into their frame but they are so fast so quick that few can resist the temptation to run them early. So they rack up early wins but were on the track before they were fully ready and as a result get injured. The ones that don't get to the track until later are actually relatively sound. If the breeding fascination was on horses that run well at 4 and 5 instead of 2 and 3 then I think Unbridled's Song would have a very different reputation as there wouldn't be the incentive to rush the talented ones to the track.
Reply With Quote
  #49  
Old 06-09-2009, 09:41 AM
Antitrust32 Antitrust32 is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ft Lauderdale
Posts: 9,413
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SniperSB23
I think what happens is a lot of Unbridled's Song's need time to grow into their frame but they are so fast so quick that few can resist the temptation to run them early. So they rack up early wins but were on the track before they were fully ready and as a result get injured. The ones that don't get to the track until later are actually relatively sound. If the breeding fascination was on horses that run well at 4 and 5 instead of 2 and 3 then I think Unbridled's Song would have a very different reputation as there wouldn't be the incentive to rush the talented ones to the track.

one thing is for certain, he passes on his talent as well as any other sire out there today!!

Zig brings up a good point about Ghostzapper too... and Big Brown could be the same way.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Can I start just making stuff up out of thin air, too?
Reply With Quote
  #50  
Old 06-09-2009, 09:45 AM
Bobby Fischer's Avatar
Bobby Fischer Bobby Fischer is offline
Oaklawn
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,401
Default

said trainer Todd Pletcher in a release: “We anticipate a full recovery and a return to racing later this fall.”

is this a realistic timeline?
Reply With Quote
  #51  
Old 06-09-2009, 09:49 AM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 6,086
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bobby Fischer
said trainer Todd Pletcher in a release: “We anticipate a full recovery and a return to racing later this fall.”

is this a realistic timeline?
Pletcher is like one of those dolls with a string in his back that you can just pull the string and get a canned phrase.
Reply With Quote
  #52  
Old 06-09-2009, 11:23 AM
sumitas sumitas is offline
Santa Anita
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 3,362
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
You realize they run races outdoors, right?. There was nearly 2 inches of rain that fell in the prior 30 hours to Friday midnight. The crew had already been working for 12 hours when the races started at 11:30 Saturday. They did an unbelievable job getting that track into good and then fast shape. Please try to not let your ridiculous surface agenda spew spill out here. There may be people who actually think there's some credibility to it.
Linny and I agree on the surface conditions . If they can't prepare a softer surface within the environment they should find a surface they can handle . Sounds like you have the surface agenda .
Reply With Quote
  #53  
Old 06-09-2009, 11:28 AM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,940
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antitrust32
one thing is for certain, he passes on his talent as well as any other sire out there today!!

Zig brings up a good point about Ghostzapper too... and Big Brown could be the same way.
yes, he does. and there's no way they went to the price they ended up paying for dunkirks potential on-track abilities. they get one good race out of him as a winner, and he'll command a good stud fee and get some nice mares. hell, he might get that now with his two gr 1 placings and his pedigree.
Reply With Quote
  #54  
Old 06-09-2009, 11:29 AM
Danzig Danzig is offline
Dee Tee Stables
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: The Natural State
Posts: 29,940
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sumitas
Linny and I agree on the surface conditions . If they can't prepare a softer surface within the environment they should find a surface they can handle . Sounds like you have the surface agenda .

nice edit, i saw your original post without the last line...after reading many of your posts, it's apparent who has the agenda. makes me wonder why you're in the game that you seem to despise so much.
Reply With Quote
  #55  
Old 06-09-2009, 11:33 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is online now
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,964
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by sumitas
Linny and I agree on the surface conditions . If they can't prepare a softer surface within the environment they should find a surface they can handle . Sounds like you have the surface agenda .
I laughed..
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
Reply With Quote
  #56  
Old 06-09-2009, 11:40 AM
Antitrust32 Antitrust32 is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ft Lauderdale
Posts: 9,413
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
I laughed..

Is that our Eagles wide receiver in your avatar?
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Can I start just making stuff up out of thin air, too?
Reply With Quote
  #57  
Old 06-09-2009, 11:46 AM
Kasept's Avatar
Kasept Kasept is online now
Steve Byk
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Greenwich, NY
Posts: 43,964
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antitrust32
Is that our Eagles wide receiver in your avatar?
It 'tis..
__________________
All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad
A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine
Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command. ~ George Orwell, 1984.
Reply With Quote
  #58  
Old 06-09-2009, 11:50 AM
Antitrust32 Antitrust32 is offline
Jerome Park
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Ft Lauderdale
Posts: 9,413
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kasept
It 'tis..

He's so freaking handsome!!! I'm so sad I wont get to toga this year
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Riot View Post
Can I start just making stuff up out of thin air, too?
Reply With Quote
  #59  
Old 06-09-2009, 12:01 PM
geeker2's Avatar
geeker2 geeker2 is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: San Diego
Posts: 6,235
Default

With Dunkirk down - it can only enhance POTN's chances for HOTY
__________________
We've Gone Delirious
Reply With Quote
  #60  
Old 06-09-2009, 12:08 PM
SniperSB23 SniperSB23 is offline
Hialeah Park
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Albany, NY
Posts: 6,086
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Antitrust32
He's so freaking handsome!!! I'm so sad I wont get to toga this year
Why not? It's not like you need a hotel and flights aren't that bad.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:31 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.