Sunday Play-Along - Page 3

CSC · #41 05-31-2009, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

In other sports, distance track and field, for example, they pay runners to act as rabbits, in other to ensure an honest pace and set it up for the stars. Due to the high number of RETARDS that also happen to be jocks, you don't need anything like this in horse racing. Perfect example would be B Blanc. Watching this idiot ride makes me wonder how someone who actually rides regularly has absolutely ZERO clue when it comes to pace and setups. In R7, he effectively collapsed the race for the chalk, and the other late runners, while giving his horse NO chance to win. And, this is in a race where he's the stalker. Why bother stalking? Might as well just take the horse out in a suicidal duel or pace.
If his agent wasn't equally RETARDED, maybe he'd want to sit Blanc down and have him watch some tape of his masterpieces.

And, NO, I didn't bet the Mofo.

That's why I don't bet Jockies, when I bet I just hope I get a decent ride. In fairness I thought his ride on Visit was pretty good yesterday and infact much better than Gomez had done in all of his rides on her combined. Now can someone tell me what Talamo was doing setting the fractions with Pride Dancer? Drives you nuts at times.

MaTH716 · #42 05-31-2009, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC

That's why I don't bet Jockies, when I bet I just hope I get a decent ride. In fairness I thought his ride on Visit was pretty good yesterday and infact much better than Gomez had done in all of his rides on her combined. Now can someone tell me what Talamo was doing setting the fractions with Pride Dancer? Drives you nuts at times.

I was suprised too. I had 3,7,9 in the pick 4 and expected the 3 to go near or on the lead with the 7 coming from behind. But it was totally reversed, with Talamo going to the front. Obviously you would think that Frankel told him to go there. She ran well on the lead a couple a times overseas, that being said I was still cursing when I saw her go to the front.

CSC · #43 05-31-2009, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716

I was suprised too. I had 3,7,9 in the pick 4 and expected the 3 to go near or on the lead with the 7 coming from behind. But it was totally reversed, with Talamo going to the front. Obviously you would think that Frankel told him to go there. She ran well on the lead a couple a times overseas, that being said I was still cursing when I saw her go to the front.

That's what I thought, Frankel must have gave some prerace instructions. Anyway Unionize for Talamo in the 8th to salvage a less than fruitful day at Hollywood. G'luck!

dalakhani · #44 05-31-2009, 06:39 PM

the mandella firster is interesting. i like that one.

MaTH716 · #45 05-31-2009, 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC

That's what I thought, Frankel must have gave some prerace instructions. Anyway Unionize for Talamo in the 8th to salvage a less than fruitful day at Hollywood. G'luck!

Now that was a crappy ride!

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Originally Posted by dalakhani

the mandella firster is interesting. i like that one.

Are you allowed to be in here?

CSC · #46 05-31-2009, 06:46 PM

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Now that was a crappy ride!

Are you allowed to be in here?

LOL I can still laugh about it, one of those days. I guess Summer Bird's connections are sleeping easier now that they are going with a more exp rider for the Belmont.

Smokin Joe Talamo, just what is he smoking today? That's 2 pretty amateurish rides in a row and not much of a better one on Egypt a race earlier...It just dawned on me I have bet 3 horses and he has been on all 3!

the_fat_man · #47 05-31-2009, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC

That's why I don't bet Jockies, when I bet I just hope I get a decent ride. In fairness I thought his ride on Visit was pretty good yesterday and infact much better than Gomez had done in all of his rides on her combined. Now can someone tell me what Talamo was doing setting the fractions with Pride Dancer? Drives you nuts at times.

There's a race from a few years ago, when Samyn was still able to ride, that should be used as an instructional tape for how to stalk on the turf. He was on one of Jerkens' horses (one that was subsequently claimed; I wish I could remember her name and dig up the race). Samyn had her on the hedge, directly behind the speed, drafting like a princess. Every time the speed let out a notch, so did Samyn. By the time they entered the stretch, he just blew by and won for fun. Anyone who has ever cycled knows what this is all about.

This BS where jocks are stalking to the outside of horses on the turf and poly really needs to stop. (As does the premature move outside the speed before or on the turn.) This type of riding is exactly what makes dirt racing distasteful to me.

Or, at the very least, the tracks need to start announcing when jocks plan on going without cover.

CSC · #48 05-31-2009, 06:58 PM

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There's a race from a few years ago, when Samyn was still able to ride, that should be used as an instructional tape for how to stalk on the turf.

Very few do it well, I agree it is a lost art, I think Dominguez is one of the few that understand this concept. Jerry Bailey was the master at it a regular basis, there's a youtube vid with him and Harvey Pack describing his 5 race win day at the Spa, one on his thoughts of riding on turf. He was the best turf jockey I have had the pleasure of watching in all my yrs of following the game, granted I am not that old...but....

the_fat_man · #49 05-31-2009, 07:03 PM

If I were still betting I'd go with Razor Cut in the finale. It'll be interesting to see if Espinoza can still find a win to move too soon given the cutback in distance.

CSC · #50 05-31-2009, 07:06 PM

I hate to go for the 9/2 favorite but Senor Afortunado looks tough to me.

MaTH716 · #51 05-31-2009, 07:21 PM

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Late pick 4 Hollywood
5,12
3,7,9
1,5,6,10
3,5,11
$72

Unbelieveable! Joel ruined my Friday Night and now my Sunday Night (but not as much, I had a small saver with the 13).

CSC · #52 05-31-2009, 07:27 PM

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Unbelieveable! Joel ruined my Friday Night and now my Sunday Night (but not as much, I had a small saver with the 13).

I feel your pain, I too thought I had some good opinions this weekend and as always close in horseracing means squat. Broke even but felt like I should have padded the bank account, some bad structuring of bets and perhaps not going all in, in some key races cost me. Trying to save it for Belmont day may have cost me. I feel really stupid right now.

MaTH716 · #53 05-31-2009, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by CSC

I feel your pain, I too thought I had some good opinions this weekend and as always close in horseracing means squat. Broke even but felt like I should have padded the bank account, some bad structuring of bets and perhaps not going all in, in some key races cost me. Trying to save it for Belmont day may have cost me. I feel really stupid right now.

I know exactly what you mean. I was a nose from at least being even on Friday. And a bad opinion in the last at Hollywood cost me being up today. The 13 was the last horse I cut off my ticket and sure enough he won. But I had enough saver money on him to break even for the day, which included what turned out to be a couple of horrible opinions at Monmouth. Takes the edge off just a bit.

Last bet of the day
$1 pick 3 at DaMountain
3,8/4,7,8/6,7,10 $18

dean smith · #54 05-31-2009, 08:52 PM

That's looking like the biggest slam dunk Pick 3 of all-time. I'm kicking myself for not playing it.

I don't see how the first two legs could've gone any other way (that you didn't have covered, that is) and you have to feel pretty good about your chances in the third. It looks like you are close to the top of the Mountain.

Not trying to jinx you. Trying to pump you up, baby!

MaTH716 · #55 05-31-2009, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dean smith

That's looking like the biggest slam dunk Pick 3 of all-time. I'm kicking myself for not playing it.

I don't see how the first two legs could've gone any other way (that you didn't have covered, that is) and you have to feel pretty good about your chances in the third. It looks like you are close to the top of the Mountain.

Not trying to jinx you. Trying to pump you up, baby!

Yeah your right, If the 7 wins I will lose $7.90 on the deal.

Yeah I'm the king!

dean smith · #56 05-31-2009, 09:04 PM

C'mon. You don't do it for the money. You do it for the glory of hitting the thing. What would you do with a couple extra bucks, anyway? Throw it on top of the pile?

dean smith · #57 05-31-2009, 09:06 PM

See? Another notch on your bed post...

You big stud.

MaTH716 · #58 05-31-2009, 09:09 PM

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See? Another notch on your bed post...

You big stud.

Yeah, Hooray for me and my negative ROI on successful Pick 3's.
3,8/4,7,8/6,7,10 $18 $10.10