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#42
04-19-2009, 11:10 AM
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Dunkirk just can't impress a jockey.
Johnny V. took some Albertrani debuter over him in his debut. Prado took Alma D' Oro over him 2nd time out. 
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04-19-2009, 11:16 AM
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04-19-2009, 11:20 AM
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04-19-2009, 11:29 AM
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perfect! lol
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04-19-2009, 11:56 AM
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I wonder what the going rate is for a leading rider in the KY Derby these days.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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04-19-2009, 12:20 PM
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Gomez made a big mistake here. Pioneer of the Nile has too many question marks. Will he take to dirt ? Can he rate/get the 1 1/4 ? His last two races he sure as hell looked like he wanted to be up close early. Plus POTN has beaten some horrendous fields. Hopefully Pletcher gives the mount to anybody but Ramon D. Hopefully Orlando Mojica isn't taken yet.
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04-19-2009, 12:27 PM
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04-19-2009, 12:43 PM
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Prado on Dunkirk. Better than Ramon I guess.
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04-19-2009, 01:22 PM
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I'll take the over.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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04-19-2009, 01:27 PM
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04-19-2009, 01:45 PM
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04-19-2009, 01:57 PM
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Look, this is really not as complicated as I think some of you think it is. The Derby is one race. Maybe Dunkirk wins. Maybe he's the better choice for THIS race. But is he the better choice for the remainder of the season? I don't know if that's true. If Pioneer loses the Derby, he can come back to California and continue dominating 3yos in races like the Affirmed and Swaps and with the way the older horses look out here, he'd have to rate strong consideration in races like the Pacific Classic and Goodwood and remember, while he has the dirt question to answer, he doesn't have the pro-ride question to answer and this year, the BC is again on the pro-ride. Everyone is wondering about Pioneer's having to answer the dirt question but in the race that will likely be the decider for HOY, a lot of others will have to answer the pro-ride question. Also, with whatever Dunkirk's issues were to get him started so late plus the fact that he's not from the soundest of sire lines, which one seems like the safest bet to still be around at the end of the year?
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04-19-2009, 02:02 PM
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i'd imagine that gomez would be welcomed to whatever horse he showed a future interest in riding, derby choice notwithstanding.
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04-19-2009, 02:05 PM
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With Dunkirk you get a horse who obviously will love the longer distance and loves the dirt. He ran HUGE in the Fla Derby to a very nice horse. I am sure the fact that Gomez plans on riding in Cali most of the year had a huge impact on his decision. He wasn't gonna burn any bridges with Baffert.
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04-19-2009, 02:06 PM
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04-19-2009, 02:10 PM
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I think so. Although Prado has been riding with his head up his arse the whole KEE meet, I can't trust Domiguez riding a horse in a 20 horse field. Whoever he rides will find traffic trouble at least 9 times during the Derby.
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04-19-2009, 02:11 PM
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Whether or not Dunkirk will still be around at the end of the year....or whether this will secure POTN for Gomez for the rest of the year...
This is the DERBY!!! Who cares about who you're riding in the BC....the Kentucky Derby is the most important thing in horse racing, you pick the best horse regardless of the rest of the year
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