Derby Wise Guy Horse - Page 3

hi_im_god · #41 04-23-2007, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by PPerfectfan

Well I know everyone posted there thoughts so her goes mine. I think Dominican is gonna be the "wiseguy" horse. And I hope he proves me right, cause I will admit, that damned Point Determined got me.

the only serious wise guy competion to zanjero.

Antitrust32 · #42 04-23-2007, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

How is he 'a wise guy'? the whole country is going to have that horse.

Definition of a 'wise guy' is someone who thinks they have more knowledge of something, and is a smart ass about it.

the horse can't be considered a public horse, which they most often do on Derby Day because everyone wants to play the wise guy horse

There will be a few horses at lower odds than smack diddy. I think Street Sense, Curlin, Nobiz, CQ will go off at lower odds, maybe a couple more (Great Hunter maybe, Dominican if somethin' weird happens) Why cant Scat be a wise guy horse!

Scav · #43 04-23-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Antitrust32

There will be a few horses at lower odds than smack diddy. I think Street Sense, Curlin, Nobiz, CQ will go off at lower odds, maybe a couple more (Great Hunter maybe, Dominican if somethin' weird happens) Why cant Scat be a wise guy horse!

If Scat is less then CQ then I will be betting Scat Daddy even harder, he has an absolute GREAT pattern leading in this race, GREAT pattern

Scav · #44 04-23-2007, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

come on man, put down the bong.

You have a vendetta against this horse so you get zero comments...

Scav · #45 04-23-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

No way Great Hunter goes off lower than Scat Daddy. I agree with your first 4, personally how you have them in order is how I think the odds will be.

Hoss, there is NO DOUBT in my mind that Curlin is the favorite, at probably 7/2. NO DOUBT in my mind. Crazy public wants this horse to win bad and won't let a bargin like a 7/2 favorite get away from them. NO THANK YOU MY FRIEND on Curlin. no thank you.

ArlJim78 · #46 04-23-2007, 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

You have a vendetta against this horse so you get zero comments...

absolutely not, no vendetta.

nothing personal, strictly business.

Scav · #47 04-23-2007, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78

absolutely not, no vendetta.

nothing personal, strictly business.

refuse to believe such falseness

Vendetta Jim

#48 04-23-2007, 10:59 PM

If Curlin (7/2) takes that much money, there are going to be a number of people with horses they like that will be overjoyed. That does not leave a very large % of money left for a bunch of other horses. This will really be interesting. I cant see 7/2. I see Street Sense at a little over 4/1. The Brits would put it at 13/3. We dont like those odd numbers here. How about 22/5...

declansharbor · #49 04-24-2007, 12:29 AM

Dominican hasnt run on the dirt since they snipped his goods, right?? He has wise guy written all over him. I know I said the same about Notional, but I absolutely love Dominican's stretch running. He has a good amount of tactical speed, enough to keep him prime for the pounce of the pacesetters. A big plus (for me only probably) is that Bejarano stays up.. This kid has the right stuff and it's only a matter of time that he wins a TC race. It may be a biased point of view, but I can see him roping some dead horses in mid stretch. Hopefully he can hit the board as my group of cronies will be keying him (along with CQ) in all three spots..Also, looking for a pricey pick 3/4..Fever's kickin in.

#50 04-24-2007, 12:37 AM

you know, Curlin is starting to sound a little like Bellamy Rd. Who won by open lengths in the Wood then was morning line 3-1. He crept up a little to I think 7-2 then went off at 3-1; I guess. However, BR got hurt, I hope Curlin doesnt get hurt.

ateamstupid · #51 04-24-2007, 04:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

He doesn't need it to set up, he has closed into soft fractions before. His turn of foot will put him into any race. I am far from worried about Pletcher having him ready. I will say this, WHEN CQ wins the Derby, he will NOT win the Preakness, maybe not even run in the race. Races take too much out of him to come back in 13 days.

I must have missed that race.. Louisiana Derby, fast fractions. Juvenile, fast fractions. Breeders' Futurity, fast fractions. Hopeful, sizzling fractions.

I like Circular Quay as much as the next guy, and I agree that because he has such a strong kick, he's nearly a lock to hit the board, but unless a bunch of jockeys decide to go nuts on the front end, I think he's a tough pill to swallow on top, especially at about 8/1, which he'll be, not 10/1 or 12/1.

timmgirvan · #52 04-24-2007, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor

Dominican hasnt run on the dirt since they snipped his goods, right?? He has wise guy written all over him. I know I said the same about Notional, but I absolutely love Dominican's stretch running. He has a good amount of tactical speed, enough to keep him prime for the pounce of the pacesetters. A big plus (for me only probably) is that Bejarano stays up.. This kid has the right stuff and it's only a matter of time that he wins a TC race. It may be a biased point of view, but I can see him roping some dead horses in mid stretch. Hopefully he can hit the board as my group of cronies will be keying him (along with CQ) in all three spots..Also, looking for a pricey pick 3/4..Fever's kickin in.

This one wil be in my plays, unless his pp is so far out it's useless!

Sightseek · #53 04-24-2007, 06:41 AM

For what it's worth Scav's...Pletcher said ATRAB yesterday that he felt Scat Daddy would gain more benefit of the likely pace scenario than Circular Quay.

ateamstupid · #54 04-24-2007, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

For what it's worth Scav's...Pletcher said ATRAB yesterday that he felt Scat Daddy would gain more benefit of the likely pace scenario than Circular Quay.

He also said that he wants Garret to take Any Given Saturday off the pace, which makes no sense at all to me.

Buffymommy · #55 04-24-2007, 08:13 AM

If he goes, Slew's Tizzy will be the wise guy. I would kinda like to see him be the next "big fat horse who likes to run every two weeks".

Although, for the horse's sake I will admit I want him to skip the Derby and whoop some booty in the Preakness. He really is a good looking colt. LOVE that little blaze.

Sightseek · #56 04-24-2007, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

He also said that he wants Garret to take Any Given Saturday off the pace, which makes no sense at all to me.

Me either...

Scav · #57 04-24-2007, 08:49 AM

A little indecisiveness has crept into Scav's head and it is possible that if I can squeeze 7/1 out of Street Sense, I might move tack to him. I doubt it though.....

Bigsmc · #58 04-24-2007, 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

A little indecisiveness has crept into Scav's head and it is possible that if I can squeeze 7/1 out of Street Sense, I might move tack to him. I doubt it though.....

Uh oh.

I don't think there is anyway you'll get 7-1 on SS. Then again, I didn't think SNS would be the chalk last year, so what do I know.

Did you really have 40 putts this past weekend? If so, how did your putter survive the round?

Scurlogue Champ · #59 04-24-2007, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Scav

A little indecisiveness has crept into Scav's head and it is possible that if I can squeeze 7/1 out of Street Sense, I might move tack to him. I doubt it though.....

I won't touch him at 10/1 plus. I don't think this one will run. If I'm wrong, then so be it. Still with Quay as of now.

Scav · #60 04-24-2007, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Uh oh.

I don't think there is anyway you'll get 7-1 on SS. Then again, I didn't think SNS would be the chalk last year, so what do I know.

Did you really have 40 putts this past weekend?

I forgot to look at that thread, I had a couple meltdowns, I shot a 49 to open and thought I would break a 100, as the back is easier then the front at my home course but then I busted out an 8(4), 7(3), 3(1),9(4) and just caused all sorts of problems. I did sink about a 20fter for par though that was pretty cool. I got all Chi-Chi on my friends. I am still the guy that thinks he can control a 5w 200 yards into the green, instead of laying up....