How much time will you spend capping the Derby

[Storm Cadet]

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[Uncle Daddy]

Originally Posted by TheSpyder

As the clock clicks down to Derby day, what would you say will be the total time you will spend capping, reviewing races, and analyizing the Derby? (Not including looking back at the form after the race to confirm you screwed up by forgetting a fine point that would have won you big $$$$$ if you would have just........)

I think I'll spend somewhere aroun 5-6 hours.

Spyder

10/12 hours handicapping. An hour to digest posts and how to bet. Does watching The Works count?

[2MinsToPost]

I honestly have never understood why people spend so much time capping this race for this sole reason -

With the field size being what it is, and the other "issues" that occur such as post position draw, traffic and troubled trips etc etc I feel that this is a race to draw back and not spend as much time and money on. I think a lot of people get the "Derby Fever" and just unload on this race when the money is dancing in the undercard. They unload their cash cause it is The Derby when they might stand a much, much better chance laying the wood to that
54,000AlwN2W next weekend.

I had this conversation yesterday with a seasoned veteran of the windows wars betin these animals, he said the 2 hardest days in racing for a capper are the The Derby and Breeders Cup.

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

I honestly have never understood why people spend so much time capping this race for this sole reason -

With the field size being what it is, and the other "issues" that occur such as post position draw, traffic and troubled trips etc etc I feel that this is a race to draw back and not spend as much time and money on. I think a lot of people get the "Derby Fever" and just unload on this race when the money is dancing in the undercard. They unload their cash cause it is The Derby when they might stand a much, much better chance laying the wood to that
54,000AlwN2W next weekend.

I had this conversation yesterday with a seasoned veteran of the windows wars betin these animals, he said the 2 hardest days in racing for a capper are the The Derby and Breeders Cup.

I think folks like the challenge. To some, it's like the biggest stage for a handicapper, the proving ground for true prowess. Obviously, that's a little ridiculous, as luck is an even bigger part of this race than other races, but it's the allure of the huge event. It's why people are drawn to "guaranteed pool" multirace exotics. One can make just as much money, if not more, playing in pools that aren't "guaranteed," but it's the challenge of beating a larger amount of players.

[GPK]

which Derby we talking about, the Ohio Derby or the Illinois Derby?

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

I think folks like the challenge. To some, it's like the biggest stage for a handicapper, the proving ground for true prowess. Obviously, that's a little ridiculous, as luck is an even bigger part of this race than other races, but it's the allure of the huge event. It's why people are drawn to "guaranteed pool" multirace exotics. One can make just as much money, if not more, playing in pools that aren't "guaranteed," but it's the challenge of beating a larger amount of players.

I'm guilty. It's just one of those days where I have to play -- though I have found that the undercard is ripe for wagering that day.

At the same time, I'll be playing into the pick-4 pool ending in the Derby, there's something about potentially being live to the Derby in a pick-4 wager that's irresistible.

[Samarta]

Well I think I began handicapping on BC day. Then every prep race since. Will make a phone call or two on Oaks or Derby morning and then it's off to the OTB. I think at this point, the decisions have been made for the most part, it's about convincing yourself. The old analysis paralysis theory. We all pretty much know by now, the only thing left to do is bet.

[Unstable]

Originally Posted by 2MinsToPost

I honestly have never understood why people spend so much time capping this race for this sole reason -

With the field size being what it is, and the other "issues" that occur such as post position draw, traffic and troubled trips etc etc I feel that this is a race to draw back and not spend as much time and money on. I think a lot of people get the "Derby Fever" and just unload on this race when the money is dancing in the undercard. They unload their cash cause it is The Derby when they might stand a much, much better chance laying the wood to that
54,000AlwN2W next weekend.

I had this conversation yesterday with a seasoned veteran of the windows wars betin these animals, he said the 2 hardest days in racing for a capper are the The Derby and Breeders Cup.

What you are saying is absolutely true. There IS the challenge of hitting on the 2 biggest days in racing. The payouts are always huge, especially on the exotics. Do I do well on these days? Hardly ever. Maybe 4 good days in the last 10 years. But every trainer is trying to win these races... they're not using the races for preps (unlike some races, that you hear about after the race... Argh!). So these races are about as honest as you're going to find.

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

It does make sense to me. I am not going to change up what I do and dive in for one race. I can count how many Supers I have played in my lifetime on one hand. I play Pick 3's, 4's and 6's, it's what I do and what I am best at. I will spend just as much time on the undercard as well as the two races after the Derby as the Derby itself. Hell, I will probably spend less time on the Derby because I have already seen the preps and pretty much know who I like. It will just be a matter of deciding how many I put on the ticket and that will be a function of who I like in the other races in the sequence.

But glance at the chart of the 2004 Kentucky Derby to get the "bug" for the super.

1st and 2nd favorite (Smarty Jones and Lion Heart) finished one-two.

Fifth favorite (Imperialism), of eighteen horses, finished 3rd.

Limehouse was the long shot 4th place finisher.


Superfecta paid over $41,000.

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

But glance at the chart of the 2004 Kentucky Derby to get the "bug" for the super.

1st and 2nd favorite (Smarty Jones and Lion Heart) finished one-two.

Fifth favorite (Imperialism), of eighteen horses, finished 3rd.

Limehouse was the long shot 4th place finisher.


Superfecta paid over $41,000.

For the record, I lost that year. I needed Limehouse in the top 3.

Never much cared for Imperialism after that.

[fpsoxfan]

First of all, I just want to say sorry to all you Yankee fans that my Red Sox came back and beat you last night. What a game!! I will be spending a good portion of time capping the undercard.
I will Look over all of the Prep races for the Derby and try to lock in on 6-8 horses and go from there. I will also be watching the weather very carefully for the area that I live..Upstate NY. We have a good sized outdoor derby part on my buddies (ESTREETPOSSE)deck. Last year we had 20 MPH winds and chilly weather. Hopefully it will be Sunny and Pleasant.

[Hickory Hill Hoff]

Originally Posted by fpsoxfan

First of all, I just want to say sorry to all you Yankee fans that my Red Sox came back and beat you last night. What a game!! I will be spending a good portion of time capping the undercard.
I will Look over all of the Prep races for the Derby and try to lock in on 6-8 horses and go from there. I will also be watching the weather very carefully for the area that I live..Upstate NY. We have a good sized outdoor derby part on my buddies (ESTREETPOSSE)deck. Last year we had 20 MPH winds and chilly weather. Hopefully it will be Sunny and Pleasant.

Sure you are!