NBA Playoffs

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

Cannon Shell created not only the basketball...he also created the circle. Like he was the first ever to make a circle.

not enough credit. He invented wood. Basketball would be on played concrete if not for cannon shell.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

If it were a foul, how come the other refs arent making the call? Only the back ref blew the whistle. If it were such an obvious call, where were the other refs? I realize the back ref is supposed to follow the ball, but the ref underneath the basket doesnt blow the whistle and the call was made in the paint. I know that is a little advanced for you but try to understand.

He lowered his shoulder before he brushed him and fell because there wasnt any contact. Why else did he fall forward? LOL. The call is done and there is no use deliberating over it. The statement that the call is "obvious" is just dumb.

This is your new defense? The other refs didnt make the call? The ref that made the call was right there maybe 10 feet away. The other two refs are on the opposite side of the court. It was an obvious foul and the correct ref who made it. You cant trip up a guy driving to the basket and expect not to have a foul called. Stop the clip at 119 and you can clearly see Pietrus leg between James legs.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

He rode him out with the hip and it was 50/50 on the arm. A no call, but still a foul to some degree. You just dont call it just like you dont call a block when the offensive player initiates a brush with .5 seconds left.

How can it be 50/50 on the arm if one guys is on top of the others and they are going backwards? Lets ask Peegarden about the laws of physics.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

not enough credit. He invented wood. Basketball would be on played concrete if not for cannon shell.

The way you watch the game who could tell the difference. Your obvious jealousy at my obvious superior basketball intellect is unbecoming. Plus you know I would school you one on one.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

so guys like you could have a circle jerk

So what you're saying is you were getting cummed on when the circle occured?


Riiiiight.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

This is your new defense? The other refs didnt make the call? The ref that made the call was right there maybe 10 feet away. The other two refs are on the opposite side of the court. It was an obvious foul and the correct ref who made it. You cant trip up a guy driving to the basket and expect not to have a foul called. Stop the clip at 119 and you can clearly see Pietrus leg between James legs.

Are you blind? Good eye for horses, what happens with the roundball?

One blog's take:

James and the Cleveland Cavaliers even were saved by the referees at the end of regulation. With just seconds left in the fourth quarter James drove to his right. The stop-action video allows the viewer to see James two steps above the top of the key, dribbling with his right hand. With his left hand James attempts a stiff-arm of Michael Pietrus to clear him to his left as he begins to plant and go right with his dribble. But the stiff-arm attempt fails. James begins a dash to the right side of the lane but picks up his dribble a step before the foul line. He takes the ball, raises it with both hands and shoves his left elbow into Michael Pietrus’ chin. Pietrus grimaces as he is falling backwards. Two frames later James thinks he has planted with his left foot but in fact catches his left toe on the court and falls forward into Pietrus. James falls first. As his body is parallel with the court, there is no contact between Pietrus’ body and James’. LeBron loses the ball out of bounds. But even as the ball tumbles away James has already turned toward the official to complain.

The only contact made on the play was initiated by James and his elbow knocking Pietrus backward. Other than that, nothing of Michael Pietrus’ body touches LeBron James. NBA referees receive around $300,000 to differentiate between split-second acts like these. But in that moment it was judged that Pietrus somehow fouled the already falling James.

LeBron converted both foul shots to tie the game at 100 apiece.

One-half second of playing time later Anderson Varejao was riding up under a leaping Dwight Howard to ensure he did not receive an inbounds and lay the ball in all in one motion.

No foul was called and the game went to overtime.

So we play ifs and buts,
candy and nuts.

IF Lebron James had missed that last FT
with 0.5 seconds left, Anderson V. would have
tipped it in and the game would have been over.
He was right there in perfect position.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Are you blind? Good eye for horses, what happens with the roundball?

One blog's take:

James and the Cleveland Cavaliers even were saved by the referees at the end of regulation. With just seconds left in the fourth quarter James drove to his right. The stop-action video allows the viewer to see James two steps above the top of the key, dribbling with his right hand. With his left hand James attempts a stiff-arm of Michael Pietrus to clear him to his left as he begins to plant and go right with his dribble. But the stiff-arm attempt fails. James begins a dash to the right side of the lane but picks up his dribble a step before the foul line. He takes the ball, raises it with both hands and shoves his left elbow into Michael Pietrus’ chin. Pietrus grimaces as he is falling backwards. Two frames later James thinks he has planted with his left foot but in fact catches his left toe on the court and falls forward into Pietrus. James falls first. As his body is parallel with the court, there is no contact between Pietrus’ body and James’. LeBron loses the ball out of bounds. But even as the ball tumbles away James has already turned toward the official to complain.

The only contact made on the play was initiated by James and his elbow knocking Pietrus backward. Other than that, nothing of Michael Pietrus’ body touches LeBron James. NBA referees receive around $300,000 to differentiate between split-second acts like these. But in that moment it was judged that Pietrus somehow fouled the already falling James.

LeBron converted both foul shots to tie the game at 100 apiece.

One-half second of playing time later Anderson Varejao was riding up under a leaping Dwight Howard to ensure he did not receive an inbounds and lay the ball in all in one motion.

No foul was called and the game went to overtime.

I read a blog today that is convinced the North Korea will launch a nuclear attack on South korea this December. i must have missed the above post there.

If you wrote a blog you could say the same thing and also be wrong.

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

So what you're saying is you were getting cummed on when the circle occured?


Riiiiight.

The foot fungus speaks.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Coach Pants

So what you're saying is you were getting cummed on when the circle occured?


Riiiiight.

Sure and LeBron James sucks too, genius.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I read a blog today that is convinced the North Korea will launch a nuclear attack on South korea this December. i must have missed the above post there.

If you wrote a blog you could say the same thing and also be wrong.

The blog isnt supposed to prove im "right". It simply stated my position better than i could. Its just interesting that there is so much written and said about a call that you say was so obvious. I did a search and there are like a zillion hits on how bogus the call was. Does it make me right? no. There is no right or wrong. Official makes the call and it is what it is. But obvious? Thats just a dumb statement especially when two other on court officials didnt even make a move to blow the whistle.

[ateamstupid]

Yikes, I've been pleasantly surprised with the officiating in the conference finals, but I guess with one of the Nike puppets down 3-1, it's time for the shenanigans to come out. What's getting called under the Lakers basket and under the Nuggets basket is completely different so far.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

The blog isnt supposed to prove im "right". It simply stated my position better than i could. Its just interesting that there is so much written and said about a call that you say was so obvious. I did a search and there are like a zillion hits on how bogus the call was. Does it make me right? no. There is no right or wrong. Official makes the call and it is what it is. But obvious? Thats just a dumb statement especially when two other on court officials didnt even make a move to blow the whistle.

So much was written? Where on Orlandomagicfan.com? The call was obvious. There was no hesitation by the ref who had a perfect view of the play. Did that ref not have a perfect angle? Was he the only one in on the Lebron James conspiracy? James was already 75% by him in frame 118. in frame 119 the guys leg is between james. In frame 120 he is falling down. why is this hard to see?

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yikes, I've been pleasantly surprised with the officiating in the conference finals, but I guess with one of the Nike puppets down 3-1, it's time for the shenanigans to come out. What's getting called under the Lakers basket and under the Nuggets basket is completely different so far.

The refs have been brutal the entire season. They are so concerned that about contact starting an incident they call ridiculous fouls and then 5 minutes later they just let anything go. And the technicals are out of control

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

So much was written? Where on Orlandomagicfan.com? The call was obvious. There was no hesitation by the ref who had a perfect view of the play. Did that ref not have a perfect angle? Was he the only one in on the Lebron James conspiracy? James was already 75% by him in frame 118. in frame 119 the guys leg is between james. In frame 120 he is falling down. why is this hard to see?

Uh...because the guy underneath the basket had the angle on what was going on with the body considering it was a block. Uh...because the call was made in the paint and the underneath official has just as much responsibility to make that call and he saw the whole thing and didnt pick up his whistle.

Lebron gets calls and there isnt another player in the nba besides kobe that could get that call in a playoff game with .5 seconds left on the road. Denying this is foolish.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Uh...because the guy underneath the basket had the angle on what was going on with the body considering it was a block. Uh...because the call was made in the paint and the underneath official has just as much responsibility to make that call and he saw the whole thing and didnt pick up his whistle.

Lebron gets calls and there isnt another player in the nba besides kobe that could get that call in a playoff game with .5 seconds left on the road. Denying this is foolish.

There was no "underneath" ref. He was down in the corner on the other side of the court with a player in between him and the play. the ref who had the call absolutely had the call. It is idiotic to even suggest that it wasnt his call. You posted the video. Look at it and look where the refs were. Debating the call is one thing but saying that the wrong ref or an out of position ref made the call is not even debatable based on the video evidence.


Henry Abbott is about as respected an NBA blogger as there is.

His take http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...rs-Game-4.html

To many, the game was marred by the referees. But watching the video, the referees got the big crunch time calls right, even though in real time many such calls looked bad. The exception? A travel call that went against the Magic.
In the closing minutes of the fourth quarter, Hedo Turkoglu was called for a travel. Slow motion instant replay reveals Turkoglu gathered his dribble as he stepped onto his left foot. He then stepped onto his right foot, launched, and shot. Not a travel. (Well it could be, by the rulebook, depending exactly when he gathered the ball, but not the way NBA referees are instructed to call it, and you see it dozens of times a game.)
The call that appeared the weakest was at the end of regulation. His team down two, James drove the lane, fell down, and Mickael Pietrus was called for a foul. It seemed like the classic case of a superstar bailout call, and didn't we all get a little sick at the thought that such a big game would be decided in such a manner. Looking at the replay, though, it's undeniable that James fell because Pietrus's foot tangled with James'. It might not get called that way every time, but it was a trip.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Yikes, I've been pleasantly surprised with the officiating in the conference finals, but I guess with one of the Nike puppets down 3-1, it's time for the shenanigans to come out. What's getting called under the Lakers basket and under the Nuggets basket is completely different so far.

Yeah, it is brutal. People are complaining about Cleveland while one of the worst officiated games of all time is going on right now.

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

Sure and LeBron James sucks too, genius.

No you're the genius. Best trainer ever.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

There was no "underneath" ref. He was down in the corner on the other side of the court with a player in between him and the play. the ref who had the call absolutely had the call. It is idiotic to even suggest that it wasnt his call. You posted the video. Look at it and look where the refs were. Debating the call is one thing but saying that the wrong ref or an out of position ref made the call is not even debatable based on the video evidence.


Henry Abbott is about as respected an NBA blogger as there is.

His take http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop/...rs-Game-4.html

To many, the game was marred by the referees. But watching the video, the referees got the big crunch time calls right, even though in real time many such calls looked bad. The exception? A travel call that went against the Magic.
In the closing minutes of the fourth quarter, Hedo Turkoglu was called for a travel. Slow motion instant replay reveals Turkoglu gathered his dribble as he stepped onto his left foot. He then stepped onto his right foot, launched, and shot. Not a travel. (Well it could be, by the rulebook, depending exactly when he gathered the ball, but not the way NBA referees are instructed to call it, and you see it dozens of times a game.)
The call that appeared the weakest was at the end of regulation. His team down two, James drove the lane, fell down, and Mickael Pietrus was called for a foul. It seemed like the classic case of a superstar bailout call, and didn't we all get a little sick at the thought that such a big game would be decided in such a manner. Looking at the replay, though, it's undeniable that James fell because Pietrus's foot tangled with James'. It might not get called that way every time, but it was a trip.

So...let me get this right...Your blogger is better than my blogger????

LOL This is hilarious!

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Yeah, it is brutal. People are complaining about Cleveland while one of the worst officiated games of all time is going on right now.

It is sickening. Did you really think that they would just let them play straight up?