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Old 11-25-2006, 06:29 PM
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So..as I understand you..it must be someone in Congress or the Administration that had the 'put' orders given?? DTS,with all due respect, Tom Clancy is looking for help! That's preposterous...and me being so trusting, I can't see it being pulled off! But,hey,I think SC is gonna beat ND,too!
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:32 PM
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I pretty much gave a reason..only conjecture on my part. However...about Halliburton..they were(and still are) the company with the most sophistictated and high tech equipment available in the world and probably the best at R&D. So I think the connection to Cheney, and any ulterior motives is far fetched at best. Of course, we could always take out that rat bast**d Al Saydr and things would clear up considerably!!
Timm,
Halliburton is correct. Remember the "no-bid" contracts? Cost over runs?
Far fetched???? I don't think so.
Of course you won't find it in Halliburton's prospectus or current financial reports. At least not in the Wall Street Journal or Halliburton's website.
It continues to amaze me that some are so eager to believe that the threat comes from "outside" of the USA. The reality might just be too horrible, too abhorent, for believing citizens to possibly confront, let alone accept.

I noticed something in my garden a few weeks ago. A pumpkin rots from the inside. Yes, you heard me. INSIDE!

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Old 11-25-2006, 06:41 PM
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DTS: Why should they have a bid when no other company had the skill,equipment and experience to deal with the situation? And yes, the alternative is too horrible to accept. Hey, I got a game to watch! TTYL
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Old 11-25-2006, 06:47 PM
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So..as I understand you..it must be someone in Congress or the Administration that had the 'put' orders given?? DTS,with all due respect, Tom Clancy is looking for help! That's preposterous...and me being so trusting, I can't see it being pulled off! But,hey,I think SC is gonna beat ND,too!
Timm,
How do you expect me to know who is protecting the one that made the "put" order?
Not much seems preposterous to me. A huge building falling down that wasn't targeted or hit, one that showed no smoke, and has a video of "blast sequence" evidencing "controlled demolition".
Unlike you, I trust no one, least of all those that have squandered so many lives during their "adventure" to create "democracy", or find wmd's, or line their pockets with oil revenues and no-bid contracts.
Keep trusting, my friend.
Many did as they climbed aboard trains in Warsaw when they were told they were being "relocated". They certainly were, but not as they expected.
Hey, maybe SC beating ND is, in fact, very important.
Keep believing. Eat everything that is fed to you.
Don't ask questions. You don't deserve answers after all.
And don't ever question the answers that are given.
Load up the boxcars. We have more sheep that need to be brought to a destiny they never considered.
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Old 11-25-2006, 07:27 PM
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DTS: Why should they have a bid when no other company had the skill,equipment and experience to deal with the situation? And yes, the alternative is too horrible to accept. Hey, I got a game to watch! TTYL
Timm,
That's really a stretch...the first and only time a "no bid contact" was granted. Seems to go against the approved bidding process.
Other companies have expertise. They were denied the opportunity to bid, but heck, that's "capialism" afterall.
Right?
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Old 11-26-2006, 09:59 AM
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Timm,
Halliburton is correct. Remember the "no-bid" contracts? Cost over runs?
Far fetched???? I don't think so.
Of course you won't find it in Halliburton's prospectus or current financial reports. At least not in the Wall Street Journal or Halliburton's website.
It continues to amaze me that some are so eager to believe that the threat comes from "outside" of the USA. The reality might just be too horrible, too abhorent, for believing citizens to possibly confront, let alone accept.

I noticed something in my garden a few weeks ago. A pumpkin rots from the inside. Yes, you heard me. INSIDE!
such drama!! careful dts, big brother may be watching. funny that conspiracty theorists think they're the ones who see the truth. better go look under your bed now, and in your closets.


don't forget, the first time the towers were attacked, clinton was prez. maybe the dems are just as evil. whatever shall we do?! our govt has been taken over!!

gimme a break.
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Old 11-26-2006, 11:00 AM
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such drama!! careful dts, big brother may be watching. funny that conspiracty theorists think they're the ones who see the truth. better go look under your bed now, and in your closets.


don't forget, the first time the towers were attacked, clinton was prez. maybe the dems are just as evil. whatever shall we do?! our govt has been taken over!!

gimme a break.
Danzig,
You might find an interesting read in a book titled "Triple Cross".
It has to do with the first WT bombing and how the FBI blew it. Big!
Check it out. It's well researched and accurate.

btw...I checked under my bed. All that I found were some dust bunnies and the wmd's that so many have been looking for all this time.
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Old 11-26-2006, 01:41 PM
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Danzig,
In case you didn't take time to read the "time line" link I posted for timm, 1988, here it is....

1988: Bin Ladens Bail Out George W. Bush?
Bush during his Harken days. [Source: Lions Gate Films] Prior to this year, President George W. Bush is a failed oilman. Three times, friends and investors have bailed him out to keep his business from going bankrupt. However, in 1988, the same year his father becomes president, some Saudis buy a portion of his small company, Harken, which has never performed work outside of Texas. Later in the year, Harken wins a contract in the Persian Gulf and starts doing well financially. These transactions seem so suspicious that the Wall Street Journal in 1991 states it “raises the question of ... an effort to cozy up to a presidential son.” Two major investors in Bush’s company during this time are Salem bin Laden and Khalid bin Mahfouz. [Salon, 11/19/2001; Intelligence Newsletter, 3/2/2000] Salem bin Laden is Osama’s oldest brother; Khalid bin Mahfouz is a Saudi banker with a 20 percent stake in BCCI. The bank will be shut down a few years later and bin Mahfouz will have to pay a $225 million fine (while admitting no wrongdoing) (see October 2001)). [Forbes, 3/18/2002]
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Old 11-26-2006, 02:00 PM
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Danzig,
Here's a link to Lance's book...Triple Cross.
If you haven't heard about Ali Mohamed, you might want to find out.

http://www.mediachannel.org/articles...onspiracy.html
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Old 11-26-2006, 10:32 PM
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why dont the 3 of you get a chat room going to talk about this liberal bs.

if you hate the US, then leave.
if you hate the fact that a Republican is in the White House, then please get a candidate with an actual chance of winning.
you cant present the American people with a competent candidate so its time that you shut the hell up.
honestly, the whole liberal propaganda and rhetoric was only interesting for about 2 seconds.
now its just old and boring.
go away losers.



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Old 11-27-2006, 01:54 AM
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DTS: Why should they have a bid when no other company had the skill,equipment and experience to deal with the situation? And yes, the alternative is too horrible to accept. Hey, I got a game to watch! TTYL
As you probably know, Clinton gave Halliburton a no-bid contract when he was President. Nobody had a problem with it.
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Old 11-27-2006, 03:19 AM
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why dont the 3 of you get a chat room going to talk about this liberal bs.

if you hate the US, then leave.
if you hate the fact that a Republican is in the White House, then please get a candidate with an actual chance of winning.
you cant present the American people with a competent candidate so its time that you shut the hell up.
honestly, the whole liberal propaganda and rhetoric was only interesting for about 2 seconds.
now its just old and boring.
go away losers.



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oh WOW. such logic and reasoning. don't like it, just leave. i like it here just fine. YOU on the other hand seem to have missed the whole point of being a u.s. citizen. and i'm not a liberal, so get over it.
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Old 11-27-2006, 03:20 AM
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why dont the 3 of you get a chat room going to talk about this liberal bs.

if you hate the US, then leave.
if you hate the fact that a Republican is in the White House, then please get a candidate with an actual chance of winning.
you cant present the American people with a competent candidate so its time that you shut the hell up.
honestly, the whole liberal propaganda and rhetoric was only interesting for about 2 seconds.
now its just old and boring.
go away losers.



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and you might actually want to go back to my post above and actually READ it. i was mocking dts' assertions that the devil is coming from within. thanks for paying attention, rather than having your usual knee-jerk reaction.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:18 AM
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why dont the 3 of you get a chat room going to talk about this liberal bs.

if you hate the US, then leave.
if you hate the fact that a Republican is in the White House, then please get a candidate with an actual chance of winning.
you cant present the American people with a competent candidate so its time that you shut the hell up.
honestly, the whole liberal propaganda and rhetoric was only interesting for about 2 seconds.
now its just old and boring.
go away losers.



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You are wrong.
I love the United States. I've previously heard this kind of talk from a guy named Spiro Agnew. His "logic" was equally effective.
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Old 11-27-2006, 09:27 AM
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HEHE!! "If you don't like it then leave. Go to Canada or sumpin! We need to protect our borders! Dey tuk our jerbs!"
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Old 11-27-2006, 11:49 AM
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HEHE!! "If you don't like it then leave. Go to Canada or sumpin! We need to protect our borders! Dey tuk our jerbs!"
Pillow,
I appreciate the satire.
Seems to me that those that wrap themselves in the beautiful red, white, and blue flag take every opportunity to deny what it really represents.
"You're either with us or against us". This kind of "thinking" has lead to untold misfortune.
"If a blind man follows another blind man, they both end in the ditch."
Thankfully, there are some that are bold enough to question outrageous incompetance. Their right to do so is protected by the same First Amendment that also protects those that make claims of "Mission Accomplished."
If one choses to believe the lies, that's also a choice that a free citizen of this great country is allowed. Followers seem to buy anything that's being sold, including wars of choice that result in squandered lives and treasure.
Those that question and don't follow bring a voice of sanity against the insane actions of the "leaders", when in fact, they lead by showing light, truth, to the darkness and deception.
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:28 PM
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Here's a very good example of the actions by those that share the "repent" mentality.
UMMM...question...isn't Christmas about the celebration of "the Prince of Peace"...Emanuel???

Very sick....very wrong!
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/1127-01.htm
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:34 PM
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1-never move into an area with an 'association' making up rules. why anyone thinks it's a good idea is beyond me.
2-how is a christmas decoration, albeit in this shape, breaking a rule about signage or advertising?
3--how is an upside down, broken cross anti-christian??? i could see an upside down crucifix, but an upside down cross?? this was a form of execution, the ultimate punishment. seems very christian-like to want death to end....
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Old 11-27-2006, 01:50 PM
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1-never move into an area with an 'association' making up rules. why anyone thinks it's a good idea is beyond me.
2-how is a christmas decoration, albeit in this shape, breaking a rule about signage or advertising?
3--how is an upside down, broken cross anti-christian??? i could see an upside down crucifix, but an upside down cross?? this was a form of execution, the ultimate punishment. seems very christian-like to want death to end....
Danzig,
It seems to me that if you live anywhere in this great nation, you should be allowed to have the excercise of "free speech", decorations, massage boards, or letters to the editor.
The "association" will be challenged for their pathetic attempt to limit the freedoms of those that they wish to silence.
Only those that are bold enough to stand up and push back against "bullies" perpetuate the freedoms we all enjoy and cherish.
There is no fear in doing so.
There is no "hate" (see how many times that word has been used in this little thread).
There is no denying constitutionally provided rights, including "freedom of religion" and "freedom of speech".
Bullies will try their darndest to take yours away, but not theirs.
Only when they are confronted with the absurdity of their words and actions do they back away....slinking with their tails between their legs as they find safety in the far corner of the playground, or the upper rooms of the White House.

Peace.
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Old 11-30-2006, 01:01 AM
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and you might actually want to go back to my post above and actually READ it. i was mocking dts' assertions that the devil is coming from within. thanks for paying attention, rather than having your usual knee-jerk reaction.

uh,
thats why I said "you 3 should....".

wasnt talking to you chief.
but if you want to group yourself with those types, then go ahead.


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