Albertrani

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Originally Posted by eurobounce

Apparently you are the one that is stupid. If three people are reading and thinking the same then obviously you didnt choose your words carefully. Maybe you are pulling a John Kerry.

no,
its 2 ppl.
you and DaHoss .

I typed what i typed.
you want to read more into it, then go ahead.
but you are incorrect.


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Originally Posted by repent

what did Albertraini do wrong?
his horse ran well below his previous efforts in the most important race of the year.
what were the reasons?
I dont know and I dont care.
but he is accountable, just as he was when Bern dominated at Saratoga and at Pimlico.
its his JOB to have the horse ready to run at his best.
everyone has bad days at their job, and Sat was his.


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Again, how did he run below his previous efforts? What makes you think that? Is it because he came in 2nd??? Maybe Invasor ran above his head yesterday. Who knows---the point in this is that a trainer cannot get out-trained at this level. They only do what they can only do and the rest is up to the horse.

Originally Posted by repent

no,
its 2 ppl.
you and DaHoss .

I typed what i typed.
you want to read more into it, then go ahead.
but you are incorrect.


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Sniper chimed in so I counted him/her as well.

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Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Bernardini wasn't the best horse in the race.

yeah,
you are right.
Perfect Drift was.

whatever man.
maybe I should have typed that he had the best horse GOING INTO the race.
that would have been more accurate, but not changed the general point.


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Originally Posted by eurobounce

Sniper chimed in so I counted him/her as well.

on a different subject entirely though.

he is debating the merits of the horses, not trainers.


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you guys are freaking great.

in your world,
the horses just go out and run and whatever happens happens.
nobody is ever held accountable.

thats great.
would be great owners to train for I guess.



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Originally Posted by repent

on a different subject entirely though.

he is debating the merits of the horses, not trainers.


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That is fine. But based on merits how was Dini better than Invasor? I think this is opinoned based. But a horse with 8 wins and already crowned a champion, a year older and a 3 time Grade I winner is typically the better animal in a race.

Originally Posted by repent

you guys are freaking great.

in your world,
the horses just go out and run and whatever happens happens.
nobody is ever held accountable.

thats great.
would be great owners to train for I guess.



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The horse came in 2nd to Invasor. What else could Abertrani have done? Please enlighten us....what could have Albertrani have done to reverse the order of finish?

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Originally Posted by eurobounce

That is fine. But based on merits how was Dini better than Invasor? I think this is opinoned based. But a horse with 8 wins and already crowned a champion, a year older and a 3 time Grade I winner is typically the better animal in a race.

of course its an opinion.
thats largely what this entire forum is about.

if we all just copied and pasted events known to be fact it would be incredibely boring.


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[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by repent

yeah,
you are right.
Perfect Drift was.

whatever man.
maybe I should have typed that he had the best horse GOING INTO the race.
that would have been more accurate, but not changed the general point.


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He wasn't that either. Invasor had been running against tougher competiton and beating it on the same tracks at the same distance as Bernardini and was running faster times. Everyone thought "but Bernardini could have gone so much faster if he wasn't under a hand ride". Well guess what, we saw what happened when Bernardini had to be ridden hard and it was no better than he ran his other races. Considering his Beyer in the race and a bit of a tougher trip than in his other walks in the park the horse totally ran to the level he has been running all year. Invasor had been slighted all year and elevated his game when he needed to. And he beat Bernardini while going wider and carrying four extra pounds.

[ArlJim78]

Originally Posted by repent

what did Albertraini do wrong?
his horse ran well below his previous efforts in the most important race of the year.
what were the reasons?
I dont know and I dont care.
but he is accountable, just as he was when Bern dominated at Saratoga and at Pimlico.
its his JOB to have the horse ready to run at his best.
everyone has bad days at their job, and Sat was his.


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Bernardini most certainly did not run well below his previous efforts.
He destroyed a collection of the worlds best dirt horses save for one who only beat him by a length.
Invasor did not run any better than he normally does.
Invasor is as good or better than Bernardini,
The loss was just a loss and not a sign of a poor training job by TA.

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Originally Posted by eurobounce

The horse came in 2nd to Invasor. What else could Abertrani have done? Please enlighten us....what could have Albertrani have done to reverse the order of finish?

have his horse ready to run the best race of his life.
thats what he could have done.
maybe he did that and the horse just did not fire.
but the point remains that McLaughlin had his horse ready to run his best race of the year on the biggest day of the year.

ppl are held accountable to their results.


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Originally Posted by repent

have his horse ready to run the best race of his life.
thats what he could have done.
maybe he did that and the horse just did not fire.
but the point remains that McLaughlin had his horse ready to run his best race of the year on the biggest day of the year.

ppl are held accountable to their results.


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Well, tell us what a trainer needs to do to make sure their horse runs the best race of their life? I guess that 12 trainers got out-trained by Kiran.

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you guys are so full of it.

you clearly get offended when someone even suggests that Albertrani did not do his job.

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Originally Posted by repent

you guys are so full of it.

you clearly get offended when someone even suggests that Albertrani did not do his job.

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I am still trying to figure out how he didnt do his job. I dont know how running the same figs as previous races and getting beat by a horse like Invasor means you are not doing your job. I guess TA said screw it and I am not going to train Dini--he will win because he is the best horse in the race.

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Originally Posted by eurobounce

Well, tell us what a trainer needs to do to make sure their horse runs the best race of their life? I guess that 12 trainers got out-trained by Kiran.

Im not going to tell you b/c its not my place.
I do not know the first thing about horses.
results speak for themselves.
his horse lost to McLaughlin's horse and that f*cked up my late pick 4.

f*ck him and f*ck all of his supporters like yourself.


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Originally Posted by repent

Im not going to tell you b/c its not my place.
I do not know the first thing about horses.
results speak for themselves.
his horse lost to McLaughlin's horse and that f*cked up my late pick 4.

f*ck him and f*ck all of his supporters like yourself.


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I am not supporting either of them or anyone. But I am glad you came to the realization that you dont now the first thing about horses. However, that does make you an expert on deciding if a trainer did his/her job or not.

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So I ask you, for the third time, because you seem to be avoiding it (wonder why). Did Doug O'neill out train Mclaughlin in the sprint? Or was Thor's Echo just a better horse on Saturday? By your way of thinking, the horse doesn't matter. Plug in whatever horse you want, as long as the trainer somehow out trains the other, the horse will win. It's not a video game dude. They aren't machines.

good gosh man.
stop talking about the Sprint.

its another race with other horses in another pick 4 entirely.

I dont give 2 sh*ts about what McLaughlin's horse did in the BCS.
I singled Bordonaro, so I was dead regardless of what HH did.


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Originally Posted by eurobounce

I am not supporting either of them or anyone. But I am glad you came to the realization that you dont now the first thing about horses. However, that does make you an expert on deciding if a trainer did his/her job or not.

the only time I am around horses is when they saddle them and walk them around that ring at Lone Star.

I dont have any interest in horses themselves.

whether a trainer did his job is clear to everyone by the results of the race.
you dont have to know anything about horses to know that.


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[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by repent

Im not going to tell you b/c its not my place.
I do not know the first thing about horses.
results speak for themselves.
his horse lost to McLaughlin's horse and that f*cked up my late pick 4.

f*ck him and f*ck all of his supporters like yourself.


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Albetrani didn't f*ck up your pick 4, you did by not including the best horse in the field and the value play of the entire card on your ticket.