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Old 10-28-2006, 03:25 PM
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The money Pik3 is gonna be the -

Juvy Filly,Juvy,FM Turf

All/4 or 5 deep/2 deep
I think there are much better ways to spend $112-$140 on BC day than playing a $1 Pick Three ticket.
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Old 10-28-2006, 11:28 PM
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The problem in my opinion with Pik 3s are the bet takes a while to unfold. I much prefer to play exactas and tris because you win, you lose, you bet again. Much easier to hadle than hitting the first two legs only to lose in the third and go home with nothing. May be my ADD but it keeps the action going.
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Old 10-29-2006, 09:55 PM
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is important to me. I play them alot and find when I try to "buy" a p3 with spreads, I do rather poorly. That meant I really didnot have good opinions of the races and was merely taking shots. The simplist bets are often the most productive ones. I remember in a past BC, it was the first time I stayed home for the telecast and called in bets a few years ago. I saw the segments on vindication in a prep race going to his knees and I liked his guts. I liked Orientate alot and in the Classic, I had no real opinion. I singled, the afore mentioned horses in their races and hit the ALL for the classic, a $12 bet and good old Volponi took it at boxcars and a $1500. p3. Let me tell ya, there is no better wagering feeling than to be live to ALL in the last leg !
Now, when I want to spread out, I confine it to exacta keys with LS on top and bottom. I think the key though in p3 betting is to have a good opinion on the sequence that you like, where you see something, not Wish something.
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Old 10-29-2006, 09:57 PM
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Juv. Fillies is the most favorite-dominated race of the Cup's history I do believe.

Not this year !
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Old 10-29-2006, 11:18 PM
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The problem in my opinion with Pik 3s are the bet takes a while to unfold. I much prefer to play exactas and tris because you win, you lose, you bet again. Much easier to hadle than hitting the first two legs only to lose in the third and go home with nothing. May be my ADD but it keeps the action going.
I'm the same way... lol.
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Old 10-30-2006, 05:13 AM
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The problem in my opinion with Pik 3s are the bet takes a while to unfold. I much prefer to play exactas and tris because you win, you lose, you bet again. Much easier to hadle than hitting the first two legs only to lose in the third and go home with nothing. May be my ADD but it keeps the action going.
Jim that is correct but just because I have played a Pic 3 I keep on truckin with other bets. My biggest problem is once the 1st leg of your Pic 3 has ran you are locked in with your other selectons many times when I have played Pic 3's and in the 2nd or 3rd leg I have changed my opinion in the race and find myself playing other ways in Exacta, or Trifecta Wagering.

Here is a Question that I have not really looked into, honestly I just don't remember is there an early and late Daily Double on the BC Races or is there a Rolling Double with all the BC Races.
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Old 10-30-2006, 06:36 AM
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Since I am not a swing-for-the-fences type bettor, I have never been a multirace player. On BC day, there is plenty of value in playing 5 horse exbs in a field with a 3/1 or better fave and hoping your bomb finishes in the top two. For the same amount of money, tris, using 5 horses boxed behind a keyed horse you really like is also attractive. To me multirace bets put me in a position, when dead, to start spending more money than I want because of the need for action.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:27 AM
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My BC P3 strategy is to have a key longshot single/race and roll along. I almost never hit the all button.
For example I like-- maybe even love-- Rob Roy in the mile. Unsure of my LS in the FM Turf. I think one of 4 is most likely in the sprint with 3 others possible.
R5 P3's
2x7x1
9x4x1
2x4x6
$98 and if one of my top choices wins R5 or 6 I have it twice and will cash if I'm right in the first two and a little wrong in the mile I still cash.

Say one of the 7 second choices wins R5 I might do
R6
3x1x6
4x8x1 (the "1" being my live longshot in the distaff)
$50.

If Rob Roy wins I have a high likelihood of cashing multiple P3's. Also will have win$ on Rob Roy, and more if not alive after legs A/B.
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Old 10-30-2006, 12:33 PM
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"Inscrutable?" Someone has been reading Andy Beyer.
Maybe its him?????????
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Old 10-30-2006, 12:56 PM
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Good point, but how do you account for the sentence that begins "I obviously could be very very wrong..."?

Not very Beyer-like, is it?
Not really but I was totally joking
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Old 10-30-2006, 01:00 PM
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"Inscrutable?" Someone has been reading Andy Beyer.
is that an andy beyer word?

a degree in english, while professionally useless, gave me a pretty decent arsenal of ten dollar words.
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Old 10-30-2006, 03:22 PM
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[quote=point given] I saw the segments on vindication in a prep race going to his knees and I liked his guts. I liked Orientate alot and in the Classic, I had no real opinion. I singled, the afore mentioned horses in their races and hit the ALL for the classic, a $12 bet and good old Volponi took it at boxcars and a $1500. p3. Let me tell ya, there is no better wagering feeling than to be live to ALL in the last leg !
QUOTE]

This bet does not add up since there is no way the Juvy, Sprint, and Classic would be in the same P3.
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Old 10-30-2006, 06:45 PM
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[quote=Slewbopper]
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Originally Posted by point given
I saw the segments on vindication in a prep race going to his knees and I liked his guts. I liked Orientate alot and in the Classic, I had no real opinion. I singled, the afore mentioned horses in their races and hit the ALL for the classic, a $12 bet and good old Volponi took it at boxcars and a $1500. p3. Let me tell ya, there is no better wagering feeling than to be live to ALL in the last leg !
QUOTE]

This bet does not add up since there is no way the Juvy, Sprint, and Classic would be in the same P3.
You are right. The Juvy did start the pick 3 that day with Vindication, but the turf was the middle race which was won by High Chapparal at 4/5. Pick 3 payed 1400 and change for $2.
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Old 10-30-2006, 11:47 PM
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You are right. The Juvy did start the pick 3 that day with Vindication, but the turf was the middle race which was won by High Chapparal at 4/5. Pick 3 payed 1400 and change for $2.
I guess my memory is going. I could have sworn it was Vindication, Orientate and Volponi p3. Sorry for the confusion, but I have rest now. My brain has been over worked .
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