Desormeaux needs to be gone

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by helicopter11

He wasnt drunk riding that horse but you seem to think he is always. Any past issues with alcoholism he has had, he has been dealt with and if he does it again, he should be punished.

Never said that. I said he stopped trying on a horse with hundreds of thousands of dollars on it and this is just the latest in a long string of incidents with him putting people in danger and/or costing people money. It is plainly unacceptable to me and I don't understand how anyone with any skin in this game can be OK with it.

[Arletta]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Never said that. I said he stopped trying on a horse with hundreds of thousands of dollars on it and this is just the latest in a long string of incidents with him putting people in danger and/or costing people money. It is plainly unacceptable to me and I don't understand how anyone with any skin in this game can be OK with it.

Unfortunately, there are many situations in this game that people are "o.k with" that shouldn't be. I guess in this case, only Kim and Tim were. Right or wrong, I'm sure this will blow over (if it hasn't already) and it will be business as usual in a day or two.

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by Kasept

DMR: Stewards vote 2-1 for no fine or suspension for Desormeaux
Jay Privman , Del Mar , 2015-11-08 - DRF Live Posted : 5hrs 13mins ago

Jockey Kent Desormeaux will not be fined nor suspended for his ride aboard in Saturday's fourth race, in which favored WHAT A VIEW was caught right on the wire with Desormeaux, to some observers, appearing to stop riding aggressively before the finish and then rising in the saddle as the horses got to the finish.

In a majority decision, Del Mar stewards Kim Sawyer and Tom Ward voted for no penalty, while steward Scott Chaney dissented, believing a penalty was warranted. They made their opinions known on Sunday afternoon after meeting with Desormeaux in the morning.

"We had Kent in, went over the video extensively, and did not feel there was enough evidence on the video" to penalize, said Ward, who said he believed the pan shot of the race showed What A View trying to pull himself up at the sixteenth pole after making the lead.

Sawyer agreed there should be no sanction, saying she believed Desormeaux's testimony that What A View was trying to "get out."

"He felt he was doing all he could," Sawyer said.

Sawyer said Desormeaux said that, in hindsight, he wished he had hit What A View once left-handed.

Sawyer also said Desormeaux was reminded about his past transgressions in matters such as this. He has been cited going back more than 20 years for not riding to the finish.

Chaney did not agree with his colleagues. "You win some, you lose some," he said.

Chaney said that the minutes filed to the California Horse Racing Board would reflect the different opinions of the stewards on this incident.

Always good to see stewards protecting the bettors.

[casp0555]

Originally Posted by Kasept

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Chaney did not agree with his colleagues. "You win some, you lose some," he said.

I swear this will be the epitaph on my grave stone

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by cmorioles

Always good to see stewards protecting the bettors.

ahhh, you gotta take care of your own so to speak. Thats just the way it works.

If you bet on a guy like KD, with his issues and his past, do you still have the right to be upset?

I wouldnt trust any of these stewards.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

ahhh, you gotta take care of your own so to speak. Thats just the way it works.

If you bet on a guy like KD, with his issues and his past, do you still have the right to be upset?

I wouldnt trust any of these stewards.

Kd, notorious serial non finisher, is one of their own? No bettors, no product.

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by Danzig

Kd, notorious serial non finisher, is one of their own? No bettors, no product.

If the bettor was truly important they would be protected more in situations like this as CJ pointed out. This is only example 10,000 were that is not the case.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up

If the bettor was truly important they would be protected more in situations like this as CJ pointed out. This is only example 10,000 were that is not the case.

I know it. Its ridiculous. But, i guess bettors should at least find some comfort in knowing it was a hall of fame jockey that cost them.

[jnunan4759]

Johnny D's comments were very good today.

[ateamstupid]

Kent typically classy and remorseful:

Kent DesOrmeaux @DesormeauxKent
I'm sorry for being expected to be perfect. Sometimes i zig not zag. Know I was all out. Trying to convince another try from mt

Later in the day according to the San Diego Tribune Desormeaux noted about his ride, “I’ve got nothing to say . . . Wait, hey I rode for my life. That’s all I’ve got to say about it.”

Wonder where he got his sense of entitlement. I'm guessing it's from decades of enabling by tracks, stewards, owners, trainers and bettors who will seemingly tolerate his garbage for eternity as long as he throws a good ride in every once in a while.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Kent typically classy and remorseful:





Wonder where he got his sense of entitlement. I'm guessing it's from decades of enabling by tracks, stewards, owners, trainers and bettors who will seemingly tolerate his garbage for eternity as long as he throws a good ride in every once in a while.

yeah, nobody expects perfect.
but not standing up in the saddle til after the finish would be nice. ride thru the wire, kent...that's all

[blackthroatedwind]

I had a very long discussion with Kent about this very topic one night, and believe me, I don't have a problem being direct. Kent is one of the all-time most talented riders who has, unfortunately, spent way too much time trying to prove the opposite. Instead of being remembered as one of the best ever, he will be remembered by most as the guy who stood up too often. Fair or unfair, he has nobody but himself to blame....and sending out Tweets like that is just another example of his disregard for the people that support this game.

[declansharbor]

Anyone catch the tweet from Mister Brightside's trainer Jeremy Noseda regarding the ride that Desormeaux gave in the Hollywood Derby this past weekend?

[knickslions2]

He sure blew up the pick 4 at Delmar yesterday with that win on Stormy Lucy at 65-1

[ateamstupid]

Here it is:

@JeremyNoseda Nov 28 Del Mar, CA

First time I have ever had a jockey "school" my horse in a Grade 1
25 retweets 21 likes

[bare it all]

Originally Posted by declansharbor

Anyone catch the tweet from Mister Brightside's trainer Jeremy Noseda regarding the ride that Desormeaux gave in the Hollywood Derby this past weekend?

Looked like he was just standing up to have a look around about the 3/16 pole or maybe breezing the horse. Who the hell knows.

[Kasept]

And then there was Ed Moger on ATR with me today, grateful that Desormeaux gave Stormy Lucy as perfect a ride as he'd ever seen, providing him his first G1 win in his 40 years of training.

[bare it all]

Originally Posted by Kasept

And then there was Ed Moger on ATR with me today, grateful that Desormeaux gave Stormy Lucy as perfect a ride as he'd ever seen, providing him his first G1 win in his 40 years of training.

Exactly. It's a conundrum. Will Kent come on ATR again? I love when you talk to the jocks and get their perspectives.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by bare it all

Looked like he was just standing up to have a look around about the 3/16 pole or maybe breezing the horse. Who the hell knows.

I didn't even notice the ride until I stumbled upon the trainer's tweet. Watched the replay again and after the race said to myself, "hmmmm".

Certainly isn't going to make his highlight reel.

I thought KD's tweets in response were pretty humorous/courageous.

[RHT2004]

Originally Posted by Kasept

And then there was Ed Moger on ATR with me today, grateful that Desormeaux gave Stormy Lucy as perfect a ride as he'd ever seen, providing him his first G1 win in his 40 years of training.

Recepta should have won that race.