Sour grapes???

[RockHardTen1985]

Is this Miller being a sore loser or does he have a point? IMO the horse was dead tired and was stopping badly. Anyone else have an opinion?

http://www.drf.com/news/premium/big-...rs-cup-classic

Here is the important stuff from the article.....

The incident with Wicked Strong, and the resulting injury to jockey Rajiv Maragh, was the most noticeable incident in the strangely run race. But Miller was left puzzled about Ortiz’s handling of Big Cazanova, believing the rider simply gave up on the horse at the quarter pole.

“We weren’t happy with the effort of the rider in New York,” Miller said. “I called the stewards, and Ortiz told them the horse was lugging out. But I didn’t see that at all. It was all very strange. Thank God the horse is good.”

[10 pnt move up]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Is this Miller being a sore loser or does he have a point? IMO the horse was dead tired and was stopping badly. Anyone else have an opinion?

http://www.drf.com/news/premium/big-...rs-cup-classic

Here is the important stuff from the article.....

The incident with Wicked Strong, and the resulting injury to jockey Rajiv Maragh, was the most noticeable incident in the strangely run race. But Miller was left puzzled about Ortiz’s handling of Big Cazanova, believing the rider simply gave up on the horse at the quarter pole.

“We weren’t happy with the effort of the rider in New York,” Miller said. “I called the stewards, and Ortiz told them the horse was lugging out. But I didn’t see that at all. It was all very strange. Thank God the horse is good.”

Did the jock ever even shake the rains at him? He looked so full of horse into the turn I though he was just cantering and was going to win.

It was odd to say the least. I thought he was being eased until the horse I saw the chart.

[senator L]

Hmmm. The first two times horses came at him he seemed to
spurt away, but the last time nothing. Didn't look like the jockey
did anything to try and keep him going though.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Is this Miller being a sore loser or does he have a point? IMO the horse was dead tired and was stopping badly. Anyone else have an opinion?

http://www.drf.com/news/premium/big-...rs-cup-classic

Here is the important stuff from the article.....

The incident with Wicked Strong, and the resulting injury to jockey Rajiv Maragh, was the most noticeable incident in the strangely run race. But Miller was left puzzled about Ortiz’s handling of Big Cazanova, believing the rider simply gave up on the horse at the quarter pole.

“We weren’t happy with the effort of the rider in New York,” Miller said. “I called the stewards, and Ortiz told them the horse was lugging out. But I didn’t see that at all. It was all very strange. Thank God the horse is good.”

I was totally puzzled by it. I was watching the race live and at first I thought that either the saddle slipped or he had some type of broken equipment. Then I thought that maybe the horse had taken a bad step and was being pulled up. It was strange to say the least. He looked like he had some horse as they were approaching the 5/16 pole, yet instead of riding the horse he was restraining the horse. I actually called a couple of people after the race to ask if they saw it. It's pretty unusual to see a horse on the lead and appearing to be running fine and to have the jockey restraining the horse (at a point in the race when you need to start asking the horse).

It's not unusual for a jockey to wrap up on a horse after the horse starts tiring, but it's very unusual to see a jock wrap up on a horse before the horse starts tiring, which looked like the case in this race. The only thing I can think of is that the horse simply didn't feel right to the rider, yet all I heard the rider say was that the horse was getting out a little. Maybe he meant that the horse didn't feel right and that was just a nice way of saying that. I don't know.

[Big Peps]

Ortiz has had a few head scratchers the past few weeks, last Friday he had a train wreck of a ride on Bernie the maestro.

[letswastemoney]

Both Ortiz brothers tend to give strange rides in between all their good ones...but it could just be inexperience.

Or it could be something else. I don't know.

[pointman]

If the stewards took no action on Jose Ortiz' ride on Gem City Gal back in June, which I was certainly not the only one to question what he was doing on that horse but it certainly wasn't trying to win the race, I can't imagine they will take action on this.

[letswastemoney]

Originally Posted by pointman

If the stewards took no action on Jose Ortiz' ride on Gem City Gal back in June, which I was certainly not the only one to question what he was doing on that horse but it certainly wasn't trying to win the race, I can't imagine they will take action on this.

He especially gives some strange rides. Broke first with Samraat in the Belmont Stakes and rated him back into last. Rated Itsagoodtendollars in last off a 26 and change opening quarter at Aqueduct last winter. Let R Free Roll take the lead while riding need the lead La Verdad.

I never saw the Gem City Gal race, but I imagine it was similar to those.

[asudevil]

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Is this Miller being a sore loser or does he have a point? IMO the horse was dead tired and was stopping badly. Anyone else have an opinion?

http://www.drf.com/news/premium/big-...rs-cup-classic

Here is the important stuff from the article.....

The incident with Wicked Strong, and the resulting injury to jockey Rajiv Maragh, was the most noticeable incident in the strangely run race. But Miller was left puzzled about Ortiz’s handling of Big Cazanova, believing the rider simply gave up on the horse at the quarter pole.

“We weren’t happy with the effort of the rider in New York,” Miller said. “I called the stewards, and Ortiz told them the horse was lugging out. But I didn’t see that at all. It was all very strange. Thank God the horse is good.”

No RHT....wrong! Peter had a very valid point. Several of us watching in a Vegas race book were completely befuddled. It was painfully obvious that Ortiz checked out.