The Best turf/dirt horse in the last 50 years? - Page 2

Port Conway Lane · #21 10-23-2013, 09:53 AM

I forgot about Waya. Top ten for sure.

#22 10-23-2013, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

He never raced on turf.

I see now. Both surfaces.

How about Lava Man?

His win in the Whittingham on turf might have been is greatest race.

OldDog · #23 10-23-2013, 02:39 PM

Not in the conversation for "the best in the last 50 years," but in more recent memory Einstein was no slouch.

#24 10-23-2013, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardus

I swear that you post stuff like "Spectacular Bid" just to get people to respond to you. It's pathetic.

How could you read the thread starter and NOT know what the guy was looking for?

It's embarrassing, really.

It was an honest mistake. Didn't read the thread starter all the way though. I'm imposing a two year bowl ban and taking away 9 scholarships from myself.

I swear you wait in your jammies and check every day for the once in six months I post something so you can say something mean.

That seems pathetic and embarrassing to me.

Check back in April for your next " tee hee " opportunity.

randallscott35 · #25 10-23-2013, 05:38 PM

I knew what you meant Vic. If Bid was on the turf, I'm sure he would've been the best ever on that surface as well...but let's talk horses. Which horse do you think is Rosario's best chance for Breeders Cup glory?

#26 10-23-2013, 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

I knew what you meant Vic. If Bid was on the turf, I'm sure he would've been the best ever on that surface as well...but let's talk horses. Which horse do you think is Rosario's best chance for Breeders Cup glory?

Haven't looked close enough to have a decent opinion on that.

hondo · #27 10-23-2013, 07:59 PM

Secretariat -male

Waya -female

randallscott35 · #28 10-23-2013, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by hondo

Secretariat -male

Waya -female

You gathered that from Secretariat's one (if I remember correctly) turf race in his career?

hondo · #29 10-23-2013, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

You gathered that from Secretariat's one (if I remember correctly) turf race in his career?

He actually was 2 for 2 on he turf winning the Man o War and The Candian International his last 2 races. His Man o War set the track record

randallscott35 · #30 10-23-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by hondo

He actually was 2 for 2 on he turf winning the Man o War and The Candian International his last 2 races. His Man o War set the track record

Ah yes, forgot the Man O War....though 2 starts, I'm not sure is enough to talk about about as the best dual surface horse....IN a way Wise Dan is a better example with Syn and Turf as the 2 surfaces.

blackthroatedwind · #31 10-23-2013, 08:59 PM

Secretariat may have been better on turf than dirt. At the very least he was an all-time great talent on both.

randallscott35 · #32 10-23-2013, 09:10 PM

That seems to be the prevailing wisdom which doesn't make it correct. With 2 starts on it we'll never know.

blackthroatedwind · #33 10-23-2013, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

That seems to be the prevailing wisdom which doesn't make it correct. With 2 starts on it we'll never know.

No, we do know. You can keep pretending you somehow know better....but you don't.

dylbert · #34 10-23-2013, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Secretariat may have been better on turf than dirt. At the very least he was an all-time great talent on both.

Well said. I believe both of these races are posted on YouTube. Very powerful performances.

One of my favorite 'what ifs' in sports is, "What if Secretariat had run in Arc and won."

#35 10-23-2013, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

That seems to be the prevailing wisdom which doesn't make it correct. With 2 starts on it we'll never know.

We can only judge by what we saw. He ran twice on the turf and was a BEAST both times.

How can you say we'll never know?

hondo · #36 10-24-2013, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer

We can only judge by what we saw. He ran twice on the turf and was a BEAST both times.

How can you say we'll never know?

This was the basis of my pick....2 races as a 3 year old against older horses .....wins by 5 and 6 1/2 lengths ....one a track record...

However, regarding the female Waya she was one of the best and had no qualms to take on the boys and beat them.

hondo · #37 10-24-2013, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer

We can only judge by what we saw. He ran twice on the turf and was a BEAST both times.

How can you say we'll never know?

This was the basis of my pick....2 races as a 3 year old against older horses .....wins by 5 and 6 1/2 lengths ....one a track record...

However, regarding the female Waya she was one of the best and had no qualms to take on the boys and beat them.

hondo · #38 10-24-2013, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by v j stauffer

We can only judge by what we saw. He ran twice on the turf and was a BEAST both times.

How can you say we'll never know?

This was the basis of my pick....2 races as a 3 year old against older horses .....wins by 5 and 6 1/2 lengths ....one a track record...

However, regarding the female Waya she was one of the best and had no qualms to take on the boys and beat them.

Danzig · #39 10-24-2013, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35

That seems to be the prevailing wisdom which doesn't make it correct. With 2 starts on it we'll never know.

but affirmed success did enough for you to include him in this thread?

Cannon Shell · #40 10-24-2013, 02:59 PM

I cant believe no one said Zenyatta