Kent D...again

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Sumitas,
I usually agree with you. Just my two cents...races go forward. If KD thought he saw a hole and went for it, even though it wasn't there, no need to whine about it. He almost got himself and his horse killed.
Bad riding. He needs to ride forward, like all the others...and not think that because he's coming, others are looking back behind to give him something.
They're not looking there.

I bet he had skid marks in his jockeys LMAO!!!

[prudery]

Hard to comment accurately here without a head on . Even on the pan it looked tight--bad judgement on Kent's part and raceriding from Martinez . BUT, at the sixteenths Kent was desparate to re rally after almost falling and being shuffled out of contention . Ball Four under Martinez definitely drifted out into PT's path . I do not believe the objection was frivilous, but I do believe Desormeaux left his brain elsewhere . I would love to see a head on.

[Round Pen]

THe sad part about this is I really think alot you believe what you are writing. I am only going to say this once there is NO TRACK in North America let me Repeat that NO Track in North America that would have a head on Shot of were the Questionable foul Occurred.

Face it what happened today happens all the time Sometimes it occurs in the first turn or more often on the far turn. A Jock will think he sees alitte daylight only to have the hole closed. Face it Kent D made a bad Choice he needed to be a little more patient.

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Originally Posted by Round Pen

THe sad part about this is I really think alot you believe what you are writing. I am only going to say this once there is NO TRACK in North America let me Repeat that NO Track in North America that would have a head on Shot of were the Questionable foul Occurred.

Face it what happened today happens all the time Sometimes it occurs in the first turn or more often on the far turn. A Jock will think he sees alitte daylight only to have the hole closed. Face it Kent D made a bad Choice he needed to be a little more patient.

Argee, the only way to tell if there was enough room is to see if the horses shoulders were up in the hole and i didn't see that and it cost him the race

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by Round Pen

THe sad part about this is I really think alot you believe what you are writing. I am only going to say this once there is NO TRACK in North America let me Repeat that NO Track in North America that would have a head on Shot of were the Questionable foul Occurred.

Face it what happened today happens all the time Sometimes it occurs in the first turn or more often on the far turn. A Jock will think he sees alitte daylight only to have the hole closed. Face it Kent D made a bad Choice he needed to be a little more patient.

Round Pen...very true.
You can't make chicken soup out of chicken s h- t.
Just don't complain about your cooking when nobody wants to eat it.

[ironprospect]

almost every racetrack has a rear view camera into the stretch coming off the turn

twp will use no turf course as the excuse for no angle

bad kentucky once again


you don't think a local jock knows where the camera allows him free reign

[ironprospect]

what is your definition of interference?

[ironprospect]

clipping heals ...sending a rider over the rail


taps recovery was a level with you know who

but lets leave him out of this

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Originally Posted by ironprospect

what is your definition of interference?

My definition is Desormeax created that mess and 100% responsible for getting beat and hopefully he didn't hurt the horse. Jockeys bait each other to come up the rail and then shut it off, he isn't a bug boy he should know better by now

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by ironprospect

almost every racetrack has a rear view camera into the stretch coming off the turn

twp will use no turf course as the excuse for no angle

bad kentucky once again


you don't think a local jock knows where the camera allows him free reign

Now that thar is one of the best ideas I've heard in quite a while!
As you know, i'm still working on my patent for the side view mirrors that attach right behind the horses ears..it'll make 'em look like a Mac truck, but who cares? As long as you have a clear view behind you, there really is no need to pay attention to the track that's in front of you.
I'm also thinking a little rear-view mirror like the bicycle guys wear should be attached to the jockey's helmets.
Are there any "venture capitalists" out there?
Shoot!!! Now I know the answer!
Make the jockeys ride backwards. Yup! Just turn the saddles around.
It will make for interesting races, and everyone could watch for Kent coming.

[ironprospect]

Not a head on but a rear view coming off the turn

and if they had a turf course there would be no question at all about the view

face it Kentucky Racing is crap

from the top to the bottom

drugs

bad cameras that miss action

commision vets under suspension left and right

starter problems

oh back to the old days when Dancer was running on Lasix

[Round Pen]

Originally Posted by ironprospect

Not a head on but a rear view coming off the turn

and if they had a turf course there would be no question at all about the view


bad cameras that miss action

I am Sorry I just can't respond to this because I am still ROFLMAO

[ironprospect]

What would Maury say????????????

At the Hidden Hollow????????

[DiscreetCat=Monster]

Originally Posted by Round Pen

I am Sorry I just can't respond to this because I am still ROFLMAO

I just got that, ha that is the funniest thing i have heard this week!!!!!!


Then we could have them run the opposite way as well, NO

[ironprospect]

I do not post often and may not expess my self as well as I would like to.

But I would expect as the more "Veteran Posters" of this site chime in they will agree will my view

just because the view provided by the cameras do not provide conclusive proof of interference does not mean it was not the truth

it only means that the lack of a camera angle provided at most racetracks in North America that would have shown that closing a hole with a horse up to the saddle of the horse in front would be disqualification grounds but without a defininate camera view. The Stewards had no option but to leave the winner up.

That does not make they're call correct.

[timmgirvan]

I don't usually bet on anything Kent rides...it hurts too much

[GPK]

Two jocks I wouldn't bet with someone else's money:

Kent D. and Mike S.

[Round Pen]

OK Seriously there is not a race track in the Country that there would have been a definitive camera angle to determine if there were indeed been a reason to disqualify.


It is a judgement call when this happens and 99 times out of a hundred a horse trying to Squeeze up the rail on the far turn will not get through.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by Round Pen

THe sad part about this is I really think alot you believe what you are writing. I am only going to say this once there is NO TRACK in North America let me Repeat that NO Track in North America that would have a head on Shot of were the Questionable foul Occurred.

Face it what happened today happens all the time Sometimes it occurs in the first turn or more often on the far turn. A Jock will think he sees alitte daylight only to have the hole closed. Face it Kent D made a bad Choice he needed to be a little more patient.

Well,we just had a long inquiry yesterday about something that occurred on the far turn at Anita.They had enough video to tell what was going on.It wasn't head on,but atleast they showed it.So far,everybody is making comments based on views from a camera from the damn grandstand.That is how poorly this was handled.I ASK AGAIN,HAS ANYBODY SEEN A BETTER VIEW YET? All you can tell from one of the views they had was that Willie was looking to his outside,and was oblivious to what was happening inside of him.He left a hole down there.Then he he came down onto somebody who filled that hole.I have seen Willie ride.He makes careless mistakes like this.The stewards in Kentucky have covered for him before when they wanted him to be kept up.I am willing to find the race that they helped him out with at Churchill. Sure DTS,we would all like to be the only ones on the road,and simply move over without paying attention.That's just not the way it is gunna work.I don't know what they are letting guys get away with at your Fingerlakes track, but people get what they deserve when they play that.Turfway is suppose to be a little elevated from that,but maybe not.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

I don't usually bet on anything Kent rides...it hurts too much

HOLY COW!!!
You heard it here folks!
I agree with Timmgirvan!
Finally, something that is total agreement!
There really IS hope!!!!
HOLY COW!!!!!!

DTS