New Pimlico Analyst

[Calzone Lord]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

That is the key reason that makes her very helpful in her role. Migliore is very good with this as well.

Even if you can trust that someone is a very good judge at looking at horses in the flesh ... they aren't much help unless they have seen the horse in prior races before and have made, at the very least, a good mental note.

I'm not interested at all in hearing how a horse looks and is behaving before a race ... unless the same person can tell me how the horse has looked and behaved before prior races.

To demonstrate a case of what I'm talking about... think Shackleford before the Preakness.

The tv analyst on horseback made a huge deal about how washed out he was and how "everyone looks fine right now except for Shackleford. He's washed out, acting up, and looks like he's already run his race"

That behavior wasn't that unusual for him ... a lot of his form was established with the same type of behavior... and he went out and outgamed Animal Kingdom in the stretch to win that Preakness.

The focus should be on change of appearance and change of behavior. The handicapper is using past form as the basis for his betting decisions ... if a horse is washed out and acting up today, but was also washed out in each of his last few races ... big deal. I'm only interested when the new information suggests a change.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Disagree on both accounts.
Maggie is great with giving an account on how a horse looks and, how it looks compared to previous starts.
So far at KEE Katie has tripped over her words and has seemed really nervous, while adding nothing to what Mike B has already said.

All personal preference and I was commenting on their voice and presence. The only person I really stop to listen to on a regular is Andy when it really comes down to it though.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

To demonstrate a case of what I'm talking about... think Shackleford before the Preakness.

The tv analyst on horseback made a huge deal about how washed out he was and how "everyone looks fine right now except for Shackleford. He's washed out, acting up, and looks like he's already run his race"

That behavior wasn't that unusual for him ... a lot of his form was established with the same type of behavior... and he went out and outgamed Animal Kingdom in the stretch to win that Preakness.

The focus should be on change of appearance and change of behavior. The handicapper is using past form as the basis for his betting decisions ... if a horse is washed out and acting up today, but was also washed out in each of his last few races ... big deal. I'm only interested when the new information suggests a change.

Wasn't it after the FOY that Romans said to be worried if he wasn't on his toes? Clearly that analyst didn't read the Form!

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

Wasn't it after the FOY that Romans said to be worried if he wasn't on his toes? Clearly that analyst didn't read the Form!

All kidding aside, much as I hate that concept, this is exactly why Maggie talks about horses in relation to how they have looked in the past. Appearance is only relative.

[reese]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I'll likely be cursed out for this, but Maggie's voice kills me. It is better now, but when she was at CLN they could never get the sound right and it was like nails on a chalkboard.

Katie has a really great voice and is a smooth speaker. She has on occasion swapped the odds for the horses # etc., but I would much rather listen to her than anyone else and she doesn't do that pouty face hair-toss thing that Jessica P. did.

Figures...form over content.

I LISTEN to Wolfendale everyday NYRA races. Not only is her voice melodic and very pleasant, she has an excellent eye as previously postesd by blackthroated wind.

Maggie has not only a degree in communications and broadcast journalism but her father is a long time trainer. In addition to walking "hots" for her dad and then getting her trainer's license...she was an excercise rider too...rode in the am at NYRA. Can't beat that for getting a first hand report on a TB.

She has a very sharp eye and refers to the horse's prior condition in her paddock presentation.(if she saw the horse)

Sour grapes and jealousy here.
Not only is Maggie smart about TB's, she is very,very pretty. Much prettier in person than she appears on TV.

[my miss storm cat]

Originally Posted by reese

Sour grapes and jealousy here.

How on earth did you reach this conclusion?

Originally Posted by Sightseek

I'll likely be cursed out for this, but Maggie's voice kills me. It is better now, but when she was at CLN they could never get the sound right and it was like nails on a chalkboard.

Originally Posted by Sightseek

All personal preference and I was commenting on their voice and presence.

If any guy here had posted the same thing but about another guy no one would say he's jealous.

Am I wrong?

In being so defensive of Ms. Wolfendale the implication is that Sightseek ripped her apart which she certainly did not!

[DaTruth]

Originally Posted by Left Bank

I just don't understand why every track can't hire someone like Andy or Calzone Lord. It always has to be another pretty face on the T.V. screen, telling the public "this horse looks so pretty in the paddock". Give me someone who knows how to bet and give great insight into a race any day. Give us a degenerate gambler who is actually going to push money through the window. Send the Pretty faces to TVG and HRTV.

Pam Fitzgerald was really good with the content of her paddock commentary. She had many years of experience with Frankie Brothers and working for Al Stall. She knew what she was talking about, but her problem was her delivery.

[Conrad]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Pam Fitzgerald was really good with the content of her paddock commentary. She had many years of experience with Frankie Brothers and working for Al Stall. She knew what she was talking about, but her problem was her delivery.

You must have been going to FG during her time there. I lived in New Orleans at the time and you are spot on with your comments.
She knew what she was talking about - she just couldn't say it very well.

[Travis Stone]

Originally Posted by DaTruth

Pam Fitzgerald was really good with the content of her paddock commentary. She had many years of experience with Frankie Brothers and working for Al Stall. She knew what she was talking about, but her problem was her delivery.

She still trains the Louisiana Downs string for Al Stall.

[slotdirt]

Nothing to add on the issue itself, but my lord, has Fogelsonger fallen an awfully long ways the last 8-10 years.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat

How on earth did you reach this conclusion?




If any guy here had posted the same thing but about another guy no one would say he's jealous.

Am I wrong?

In being so defensive of Ms. Wolfendale the implication is that Sightseek ripped her apart which she certainly did not!

Funny how it works, huh?