First Dude- Grade 1 winner

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Lookin at Lucky was only able to beat him 3/4 of a length in the Preakness. Fly Down was well ahead of him in the Travers and BC Classic but in three other races, beat him less than 1/2 length. So is Fly Down really so much better than him? Morning Line beat him by a neck in Pennsylvania. If all of these horses were so much better than him, why was he able to be so competitive with them? The answer is because they weren't significantly better than him, if at all. He was at the very least right there with them. And if these horses now are right with him, doesn't that put them right with the group from last year?

Maybe I'm getting old but I'm having a hard time remember what where Lookin at Lucky's fast races that make him such a world beater? The point I was making wasn't that Fly Down wasn't better than Equestrio but that he wasn't really much better than First Dude. At least I never thought he was.

What are you talking about? Do you even know?

Who called Lookin at Lucky a world beater? He wasn't, but he certainly proved he was better than First Dude on the track (he beat him by 4 at Monmouth as well as the Preakness) and he was a lot better than anything First Dude has beaten (by a nose) this year.

You said the horses he's beating this year aren't any worse than what he faced last year. Those are your words, not mine.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by King Glorious

Lookin at Lucky was only able to beat him 3/4 of a length in the Preakness. Fly Down was well ahead of him in the Travers and BC Classic but in three other races, beat him less than 1/2 length. So is Fly Down really so much better than him?

First Dude was close to Lookin At Lucky in the Preakness, but in two other races, was beaten by over 4 lengths. So is First Dude really so close to him?

[Dahoss]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

Didn't Game On Dude win the Lone Star Derby last year?

Yeah. I'm a bit confused by the not liking the track comment because he seemed to like it just fine last year.

Despite not thinking he's much, I thought he ran well on Saturday, probably ran best in the field. Was an unlucky loser.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Dahoss

I thought he ran well on Saturday, probably ran best in the field. Was an unlucky loser.

Yep, but I also thought he got away with a comfortable, unpressured lead, so I wasn't suprised he had some fight down the lane.

[Indian Charlie]

whats confusing me is that people are actually arguing over the merits of First Dude.