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Old 02-18-2011, 12:12 PM
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ARCI President Ed Martin calling for NY to further review Dutrow's overall viability as a licensee.

http://www.arci.com/nysrwbletter.pdf
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Old 02-18-2011, 12:14 PM
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Old 02-18-2011, 01:03 PM
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If NYS RWB thought they could revoke licenses of recitivists without a protracted legal battle, they probably would. But as Chuck has previously pointed out, no state is going to be interested in costly court cases because the commission (or similar entity) does not have the necessary budget. And legal battles would result because as in this situation as an example, and as in so many of them, the medication in question has dual usage both positively as a medication and negatively as a performance enhancer.

It is to ARCI's credit that they are trying to draw a line in the sand, but as is the broad case in racing, they haven't the teeth with which to leave a mark on Dutrow's hide. ARCI isn't the entity that would be involved in the dispute that would result from an attempt by RWB to rule Dutrow off NY tracks. The best most jurisdictions can do is apply the maximum penalties/suspensions for the offenses and hope that at some point the taint of them would shame owners from wanting to be involved with the oft-penalized parties.
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Old 02-17-2011, 09:44 PM
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"Guys, guys! We can't suspend Dutrow for cheating! Think about it! We'll lose the idiots who still gamble on our sport! I don't know about you, but I'm a slapdick. I don't care about this sport or its future. I've got 8 years until retirement and god-damnit I am going to pass the buck on this one to the next guy. All I care about is myself. And when it comes down to it that's what all of us are about. So is Dick. Hell you live right down the street from him, Chet. Do you want to look at him from a distance and see that he has gone from 8 classic cars to 6? What kind of neighbor would you be?

So it's settled? Pass the buck like most of the rulers and businessmen in this country have done since WWII? F.uck these young kids. All in favor, say GREED"
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Old 03-03-2011, 11:12 PM
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Kentucky Derby (gr. I)-winning trainer Rick Dutrow Jr. has some explaining to do.

New York racing authorities deemed Dutrow ”obnoxious” and “unbecoming” and ordered him to show why he should not be suspended, lose his license, and be kicked off state tracks after years and dozens of sanctions.

The New York State Racing and Wagering Board suspended Dutrow twice last month. The suspensions totaled 90 days for hypodermic needles in his barn and for a winning horse's positive test for a banned painkiller at Aqueduct last year.

Dutrow has appealed and the board scheduled hearings for March 30-31.


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Old 03-04-2011, 05:02 AM
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1 year suspension.
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Old 03-04-2011, 06:15 AM
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interesting that jocks can get banned for life for personal drug use, but trainers can't for drugging the horses. how does that make sense?
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That is one helluva good point....
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Old 03-04-2011, 06:33 AM
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Trainers most certainly can be banned for 'drugging' horses, with the most egregious and serious of narcotics, and I know of no jock whose personal drug use resulted in a lifetime ban. As in every case with this topic, generalizations cannot be applied. As has been discussed this week with Migliore, Haskin and Allday, the problem you have, specifically with Rick Dutrrow, is that suddenly saying after the fact that previous history is now part of a new penalty, is patently unfair... The 'double secret probation' mentality.

You want to admonish him and set up a set of ground rules he's required to follow going forward, fine. That's fair. But the way this is being gerrymandered isn't right and won't hold up legally. Even Allday, who has had a very public breakup and fight with Dutrow, said that you better apply the same standards to EVERYONE if you're going to go down this road.

And has been said here before, there's several 'angels with dirty halos' around that get away with as much or more envelope pushing as Rick Dutrow. Would be curious to see the reaction of the public if some of them were dragged out into the spotlight. Dutrow brings a lot of negative focus on himself, but the doctrine of fair play has to be part of whatever attempt there is to provide an atmosphere of integrity in the sport.
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