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Old 11-15-2010, 12:01 AM
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Racing received more attention related to Zenyatta in the two weeks leading up to the Breeders' Cup, but did not receive added attention throughout the year on her account.
So, in other words, you feel that Zenyatta was bad for the sport.
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Old 11-14-2010, 01:57 AM
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Your post is so urgent and apocalyptic that it sounds like Zenyatta should be awarded the Noble Peace Prize, never mind HOTY.

Can you please spell out, distinctly, what Zenyatta "has done for racing"?

If your answer involves Oprah and "60 Minutes" (I'm guessing some variation "new fans" is a necessity), please feel free to disregard my request.
Adding to the post two above mine, she also is an excellent writer of fiction.
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Old 11-14-2010, 02:07 AM
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I feel dumber for reading that blog post - but at least we have a 'rank'em' post

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Old 11-14-2010, 02:08 AM
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I feel dumber for reading that blog post - but at least we have a 'rank'em' post

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Old 11-14-2010, 02:24 AM
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Would you really need to have 8 or 12 beers in you to drill a girl wearing an outfit like that?

I would do it just to say I did. Kind of like banging a deaf chick or a midget. They sure wouldn't have to be a hot deaf chick or hot midget to get my salami.
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:40 AM
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so, zenyatta has 'earned' hoy and apparently the need for another thread about the same tired subject.

she has done no such thing. and exactly what has she done for racing? i keep seeing this phrase bandied about, as tho this horse is some four-legged mother theresa. please, i want details as to what has changed in the last year, or last three, since this horse has hit the scene? what is better, what has changed, how has the sport been affected?
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:41 AM
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Old 11-14-2010, 09:02 AM
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If Zenyatta had done "so much" for racing, then why was attendance at CD down from the last several Breeders Cups held in Louisville? Did Invasor, Round Pond, Bernadini, Thor's Echo, Red Rocks, and Street Sense do more for horse racing than Zenyatta, because more people saw those guys run live in 2006 than were at the Downs last Saturday?
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Old 11-16-2010, 12:35 PM
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I think we really need to wait until the end of the year and see how much money "Secretariat" makes at the box office. He might mean more to racing than Zenyatta this year and he should probably be HOY 2010.
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:29 PM
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If Zenyatta isn't awarded the title she rightfully deserves, it will be because a majority of voters have little understanding of what's in the best interest of racing. In my 40+ years as a racing fan, no single horse has done more for racing in a single year than Zenyatta. Rewarding her for this singular accomplishment transcends all other reasons for casting a HOTY ballot.
You must be kidding. Where were you in 1973? I won't even bring up the additional obvious examples over the past 40 years because 1973 alone slams your statement into Zen-la-la-land.

Yes, Zenyatta brought a lot of attention to racing this year. That's great. She brought attention to a sport, our sport, that is not as popular as it was in years past. Remember, it used to be called the sport of kings. I for one, and I'm sure many others do too, appreciate ANY horse that brings positive attention to horse racing.

Thank you Zen. I've enjoyed watching you run. You're beautiful, a good dancer, you seem to have your taste for alcohol under control, and I wish I were tall and had long, lanky legs like you.

Horse of the year? Not so sure. I will say this. I for one will be very happy when Zen goes off to her first romantic encounter. Hopefully the number of Zen threads will decrease. I wish her a long, happy, and healthy horse life. But, enough already.

Ahh, what I'm I thinking. Everyone will be arguing over who she should have been bred to.
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:34 PM
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"Thank you, sir - I'll have another"

Stephanie Diaz of The Pilot out of Southern Pines, NC

http://www.thepilot.com/news/2010/no...be-horse-year/

The Moss's are very kind of OLD FRIENDS (and they are, I don't deny them that), but is that a good enough reason?
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"Thank you, sir - I'll have another"

Stephanie Diaz of The Pilot out of Southern Pines, NC

http://www.thepilot.com/news/2010/no...be-horse-year/

The Moss's are very kind of OLD FRIENDS (and they are, I don't deny them that), but is that a good enough reason?
That woman is a hack who had an Eclipse Award taken from her for plagiarism.
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This is rude.
But true. It's amazing what one can learn by being a member DT .

http://articles.latimes.com/keyword/stephanie-diaz
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:42 PM
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Who are theses people? I know one (Nick Kling) who Sunday on his weekly show clearly is voting for Zenyatta. Took call after call challenging him on why her and not Blame and he sat there with litle to no response. Really makes one wonder why these selected few have the power to cast a vote and determine the fate of a champion. Turn it over to the true horse person...The Bettor..now that would be something huh...

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Old 11-15-2010, 02:11 PM
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Despite my lack of respect for Kling's opinion, he is probably more qualified than a lot of other voters. Hard to believe that in a day and age when racing gets so little coverage there are 200+ writers with the credentials or knowledge to accurately vote on the eclipse awards.
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Who are theses people? I know one (Nick Kling) who Sunday on his weekly show clearly is voting for Zenyatta. Took call after call challenging him on why her and not Blame and he sat there with litle to no response. Really makes one wonder why these selected few have the power to cast a vote and determine the fate of a champion. Turn it over to the true horse person...The Bettor..now that would be something huh...

Scat

He is also a coward... He continues to say he is voting for her, but he is betting with a friend that she wont win. Way to stand behind your opinion.

Are you talking about the caller who actually seemed angry and said he would give the game up if Zenyatta got it?
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Are you talking about the caller who actually seemed angry and said he would give the game up if Zenyatta got it?
people are so prone to hyperbole, if there really was a caller that said that...the game doesnt need an idiot like him.

there have been far less deserving year-end award winners in sports.
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people are so prone to hyperbole, if there really was a caller that said that...the game doesnt need an idiot like him.

there have been far less deserving year-end award winners in sports.
A man towards the end of the show called and really did sound angry... He went on and on about Blame should get it, then said If she wins it I am done with this sport. Kling had no real reasson to why he is voting her, just that he is, but he will bet against her winning it.
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A man towards the end of the show called and really did sound angry... He went on and on about Blame should get it, then said If she wins it I am done with this sport. Kling had no real reasson to why he is voting her, just that he is, but he will bet against her winning it.
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