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Old 09-08-2010, 12:17 PM
Alan07 Alan07 is offline
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Default 9/11-12 (BEL): Bowling Green H. (G2); Ashley T. Cole S.

SATURDAY 9th (5:15) Bowling Green H. (G2)

1 3/8 Miles (Inner Turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $150,000

1 Simmard Velazquez J R 115 L
2 Grand Couturier (GB) Garcia Alan 117 L
3 Al Khali Leparoux J R 116 L
4 Strike a Deal Dominguez R A 117 L
5 Winchester Velasquez C 119 L
6 Gabriel's Hill Coa E M 113 L
7 Dry Martini Prado E S 115 L
8 Southwest Castellano J J 113
9 Interpatation Hill C 116 L
10 Followmyfootsteps Maragh R 113 L
11 Jeune-Turc (BRZ) Lezcano J 116 L



SUNDAY 9th (5:15) Ashley T. Cole S.

1 1/8 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Spa City Fever Chavez J F 116 L
2 Piazza Di Spagna Maragh R 116 L
3 Gimme Credit Castellano J J 118 L
4 Solvent Velasquez C 116
5 Pocket Cowboys Prado E S 116 L
6 Writingonthewall Lezcano J 118 L
7 Uncle T Seven Leparoux J R 116 L
MTO Haynesfield Dominguez R A 123 L
MTO Giant Moon Prado E S 123 L
MTO Manteca Velazquez J R 123 L

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Old 09-08-2010, 12:18 PM
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Giant jockey switch on the 3.
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:36 PM
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He did get a bad ride last time, but overall that's not really true.
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:37 PM
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He did get a bad ride last time, but overall that's not really true.
What are you trying to say? The ride was horrible, he made the lead way to early. This horse has talent.
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:39 PM
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To say it's a "giant" jockey switch is hyperbole based on one ride and your favoring of certain riders.
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Old 09-08-2010, 12:52 PM
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To say it's a "giant" jockey switch is hyperbole based on one ride and your favoring of certain riders.
Who do I favor exactly?
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Old 09-08-2010, 01:07 PM
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He did get a bad ride last time, but overall that's not really true.
I thought he moved too soon but I also thought he was supposed to win on that course. I also thought that the juice was supposed to allow him to win. Kiaran the juicer is real good at taking advantage of turf biases and, he's also real good with sprinters stretching out 1st time turf. In this, he's the John Sadler of the East Coast. Which means he's either a really good trainer or he has an edge. (Guess which is the case? )

Which brings me back to the original point: why did this horse fall apart like it did in the stretch last out?
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Old 09-08-2010, 01:08 PM
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I thought he moved too soon but I also thought he was supposed to win on that course. I also thought that the juice was supposed to allow him to win. Kiaran the juicer is real good at taking advantage of turf biases and, he's also real good with sprinters stretching out 1st time turf. In this, he's the John Sadler of the East Coast. Which means he's either a really good trainer or he has an edge. (Guess which is the case? )

Which brings me back to the original point: why did this horse fall apart like it did in the stretch last out?
What does Kiaran have to do with anything? Are you confused?
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Old 09-08-2010, 01:15 PM
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Not confused. . . just insane. . . probably still bitter about Soldat annihilating that field last week. I've really enjoyed the constant complaining from everyone over the Saratoga bias. . . and I'm kind of amazed that so many of you supposedly skilled handicappers were so incapable of adjusting. . . same thing with the juice.
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Old 09-08-2010, 01:21 PM
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What does Kiaran have to do with anything? Are you confused?
No. I didn't bother checkin and seemed to think that Kiaran was the trainer of this horse.
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Old 09-09-2010, 02:57 PM
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9th (5:15) Ashley T. Cole S.

1 1/8 Miles (Inner turf) | Open | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Spa City Fever Chavez J F 116 L
2 Piazza Di Spagna Maragh R 116 L
3 Gimme Credit Castellano J J 118 L
4 Solvent Velasquez C 116
5 Pocket Cowboys Prado E S 116 L
6 Writingonthewall Lezcano J 118 L
7 Uncle T Seven Leparoux J R 116 L
MTO Haynesfield Dominguez R A 123 L
MTO Giant Moon Prado E S 123 L
MTO Manteca Velazquez J R 123 L
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Old 09-10-2010, 04:33 PM
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Grand Couturier is scratched and Garcia is riding Al Khali.

http://www.drf.com/news/grand-coutur...orthern-dancer

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Old 09-10-2010, 07:48 PM
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SATURDAY 9th (5:15) Bowling Green H. (G2)
10 Followmyfootsteps Maragh R 113 L
Of course I'll be rooting for Interpatation (oh shut up - am I his only fan? ) but I'm playng this guy and hoping for a huge upset.
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Old 09-11-2010, 08:34 PM
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Well my picks sucked today.

Anyway, found this for anyone who cares...

Interpatation to wait for Joe Hirsch

Interpatation was one of four horses scratched from Saturday’s Grade 2, $150,000 Bowling Green Handicap. Trainer Robert Barbara said he felt Interpatation needed more time and will point him to the $500,000 Joe Hirsch Turf Classic Invitational, a race he won last year at odds of 43-1.

Also scratched were Grand Couturier, who is being pointed to Sunday’s Northern Dancer at Woodbine, Gabriel’s Hill, and Southwest.


http://www.drf.com/news/gio-ponti-go...k-work-belmont

I shall continue my losing streak and play Piazza Di Spagna today...

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