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Old 03-13-2010, 05:50 PM
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smith tried to lose to make things interesting and he could even make that horse lose.......lol,,,,,,another laugher
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:52 PM
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Maybe he was reading this forum how he likes to take everything wide?
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:53 PM
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smith tried to lose to make things interesting and he could even make that horse lose.......lol,,,,,,another laugher

...I disagree
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:53 PM
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Do you actually beleive this?
of course some of them do. they are in denial. i still remember the thread about rachel being better than ruffian.....lol. that had me waiting for today!
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This sums it up....trouble only hurts you if anyone else is running...when she got in trouble, only a 50-1 hopeless pig was left to beat...when she got out of trouble, same score.

Very impressive to see her overcome it, but if there was absolutely ANYTHING in that race besides her, they'd have been long gone by the time she got free. Lucky for her that Zardana was in that other race today.
till an hour ago Zardana was one of those same mules from socal? right?
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Do you actually beleive this?
No, 15 and 0, giving weight AGAIN. This mare isn't that much.
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This sums it up....trouble only hurts you if anyone else is running...when she got in trouble, only a 50-1 hopeless pig was left to beat...when she got out of trouble, same score.

Very impressive to see her overcome it, but if there was absolutely ANYTHING in that race besides her, they'd have been long gone by the time she got free. Lucky for her that Zardana was in that other race today.
Zardana is a pig on synthetics

different on dirt
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This sums it up....trouble only hurts you if anyone else is running...when she got in trouble, only a 50-1 hopeless pig was left to beat...when she got out of trouble, same score.

Very impressive to see her overcome it, but if there was absolutely ANYTHING in that race besides her, they'd have been long gone by the time she got free. Lucky for her that Zardana was in that other race today.
I bet Zardana last time here. She wouldn't of done sht on this track today.
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Old 03-13-2010, 05:55 PM
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I think Brians just messing around, waiting on his response.
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:00 PM
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Give Zenyatta credit - most horses would have bailed in that spot. Then again, most jockeys wouldn't have put their mounts in that spot either, but I digress. She's got moxy.
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I think Brians just messing around, waiting on his response.
Well it's two-fold. Zardana sucks on the synthetics....but she doesn't suck THAT bad. Today's results make it clear to me that she's better on dirt, so we can't compare them like apples an oranges.

On the flipside, if there was anything but plugs in that Santa Margarita, she would've been in for a hell of a race. Luckily for her, nobody was doing any running at all while she was getting into her trouble.

The 50-1 plug that she had to catch before the trouble was still the only horse she had to catch once she got out of it. She's fortunate that there was nothing in that race, but she ran huge and overcame everything asked of her.

I think she was awfully impressive today on one hand, and awfully lucky on the other that she was the only Grade I mare in an otherwise lackluster Grade III field that allowed her to get away with that.
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:04 PM
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Brian you are right and thats the kind of race RA should of had today.
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:07 PM
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Zenyatta really is something on plastic.
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:08 PM
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Give Zenyatta credit - most horses would have bailed in that spot. Then again, most jockeys wouldn't have put their mounts in that spot either, but I digress. She's got moxy.
She only beat a 50/1 shot by a length, in like a 80 beyer......

on figures RA run lengths better, many lengths.
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Zenyatta really is something on plastic.
Do you dont think she can translate it on the Oaklawn surface?
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:10 PM
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Zenyatta really is something on plastic.
This is so old... Her Apple Blossom win WAS AWESOME AND really easy. No reasson to think she would not improve right now, AGAIN on dirt.
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Do you dont think she can translate it on the Oaklawn surface?
Its getting so old... I hate synthetics, but they are not going anywhere... People just need to stop, racing is racing and Z is the goods on either surface.
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:11 PM
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Zenyatta really is something on plastic.
her one race at Oaklawn was her largest margin of victory.
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:12 PM
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her one race at Oaklawn was her largest margin of victory.
I just watched the replay of it, she totally EXPLODES IN THAT RACE.
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Old 03-13-2010, 06:15 PM
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I just watched the replay of it, she totally EXPLODES IN THAT RACE.
yeah I know, I don't understand why people are so convinced she needs synthetic to win and would be a hapless also ran on dirt.
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